NT Version (8.1.2.0) import error with a protected compiled assembly

[sidlercom80]

Hello sidlercom80,

Thanks for your notes.

Yes, you could export protected NinjaScript assemblies from NT 8.1.3.0 using Agile 6.9.1.2.

Those exported assemblies should successfully import onto the previous versions of NinjaTrader 8, such as the ones that you mentioned (8.0.28.0, 8.1.1.7, 8.1.2.1).

Hi Brandon,


Thank you for the feedback. Are you 100% sure that Agile.Net 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) was used to test this? I don't believe that! Please watch my video, where you can clearly see that it doesn't work.

Video here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bum...ew?usp=sharing

The test zip file that was made with NT v8.1.3.0 and Agile.Net 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/110j...ew?usp=sharing
And the original file here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OOz...ew?usp=sharing

[NinjaTrader_BrandonH]

Hello sidlercom80,

Thanks for your notes.

My colleague NinjaTrader_ChelseaB specifically tested exporting a protected assembly from NinjaTrader 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) and imported the assembly onto previous NinjaTrader versions.

Here is a demonstration video showing exporting a protected assembly from NT 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) and importing the assembly to NT 8.0.28.0: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uK_...w?usp=drivesdk

The reference sample used in the demonstration video to test this could be found here: https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...ned_parame.htm

Attached here is the protected assembly exported from 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) that you could test importing on your end: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4q...ew?usp=sharing

NinjaTrader_ChelseaB also tested exporting the Adx_Testing script you shared from NT 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) and importing it into 8.0.28.0 and the script worked without any issues.

Here is a demonstration video of the test: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K_C...w?usp=drivesdk

Attached here is the exported protected assembly used to test this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/122x...ew?usp=sharing

[Sebastian - TwinPeaks]

Hello sidlercom80,

Thanks for your notes.

My colleague NinjaTrader_ChelseaB specifically tested exporting a protected assembly from NinjaTrader 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) and imported the assembly onto previous NinjaTrader versions.

Here is a demonstration video showing exporting a protected assembly from NT 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) and importing the assembly to NT 8.0.28.0: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uK_...w?usp=drivesdk

The reference sample used in the demonstration video to test this could be found here: https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...ned_parame.htm

Attached here is the protected assembly exported from 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) that you could test importing on your end: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4q...ew?usp=sharing

NinjaTrader_ChelseaB also tested exporting the Adx_Testing script you shared from NT 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) and importing it into 8.0.28.0 and the script worked without any issues.

Here is a demonstration video of the test: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K_C...w?usp=drivesdk

Attached here is the exported protected assembly used to test this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/122x...ew?usp=sharing

The last video on this link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K_C...w?usp=drivesdk Stops at about 3 minutes. only audio at this point. can you maybe reupload?

[NinjaTrader_BrandonH]

Hello Sebastian - TwinPeaks,

Thanks for your notes.

Below is a re-recorded demonstration video showing exporting the Adx_Testing script from NT 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) and importing it into 8.0.28.0 and the script working without any issues. Note that there is a small freeze for about a minute, however, the audio/video continues after the short pause.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W7OE2m8CFjLIUm0uWYTeyksveQGZvChu/view?usp=drivesdk

[jeronymite]

For some NinjaTrader vendors, myself included, we need to export from 8.1 to import into 8.1, and from 8.0 to import into 8.0. This is required because customers continue to run 8.0 and do not want to migrate to 8.1. Therefore, a practical solution is required. What is the official solution for that?

Thanks.

[sidlercom80]

Hello sidlercom80,

Thanks for your notes.

My colleague NinjaTrader_ChelseaB specifically tested exporting a protected assembly from NinjaTrader 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) and imported the assembly onto previous NinjaTrader versions.

Here is a demonstration video showing exporting a protected assembly from NT 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) and importing the assembly to NT 8.0.28.0: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uK_...w?usp=drivesdk

The reference sample used in the demonstration video to test this could be found here: https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...ned_parame.htm

Attached here is the protected assembly exported from 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) that you could test importing on your end: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i4q...ew?usp=sharing

NinjaTrader_ChelseaB also tested exporting the Adx_Testing script you shared from NT 8.1.3.0 using Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 (NinjaTrader Edition) and importing it into 8.0.28.0 and the script worked without any issues.

Here is a demonstration video of the test: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K_C...w?usp=drivesdk

Attached here is the exported protected assembly used to test this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/122x...ew?usp=sharing
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Hi Brandon, thank you for your videos and test files. I don't know what I do differently than you, but it doesn't work for me.
Please watch my video here with my own compile: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17SF...ew?usp=sharing
and here with your compiled file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17-n...ew?usp=sharing

[NinjaTrader_ChelseaB]

Hello sidlercom80,

I noticed you clicked No to not include dependencies when exporting, while in the video I created I clicked Yes to include dependencies. That's one difference I see.

Also, I made a clean environment folder when installing 8.0.28.0, which would also be a difference.

Can you try creating a clean environment folder and importing the file brandon posted in post # 153?

To create a clean temporary NinjaTrader folder:

1. Shutdown NinjaTrader
2. Rename (My) Documents\NinjaTrader 8\ to (My) Documents\NinjaTrader 8.original\
3. Download the NinjaTrader installation package from the link below
4. NinjaTrader - Download
5. Run the repair from this (if the repair is unsuccessful, uninstall and then re-install NinjaTrader)

[sidlercom80]

Hello sidlercom80,

I noticed you clicked No to not include dependencies when exporting, while in the video I created I clicked Yes to include dependencies. That's one difference I see.

Also, I made a clean environment folder when installing 8.0.28.0, which would also be a difference.

Can you try creating a clean environment folder and importing the file brandon posted in post # 153?

To create a clean temporary NinjaTrader folder:

1. Shutdown NinjaTrader
2. Rename (My) Documents\NinjaTrader 8\ to (My) Documents\NinjaTrader 8.original\
3. Download the NinjaTrader installation package from the link below
4. NinjaTrader - Download
5. Run the repair from this (if the repair is unsuccessful, uninstall and then re-install NinjaTrader)

Hi Chelsea,

I didn't click 'No' in the last video but instead confirmed 'YES' with the Enter key.

I made another video. It does NOT work!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yg21Q2_a-oFAIh4Cm_KgYLrHz88doin_/view?usp=sharing

[NinjaTrader_ChelseaB]

Hello sidlercom80,

Thank you for trying a clean environment folder.

Are you seeing the error with the file brandon posted in post # 153 as well?
(It looked like you downloaded this, but in the video I'm not seeing that you tested importing this. This will let me know if the export process is going wrong when you are exporting on your end, or if there is something we need to look into further with 8.0.28.0 on the other computer.)

[sidlercom80]

Hello sidlercom80,

Thank you for trying a clean environment folder.

Are you seeing the error with the file brandon posted in post # 153 as well?
(It looked like you downloaded this, but in the video I'm not seeing that you tested importing this. This will let me know if the export process is going wrong when you are exporting on your end, or if there is something we need to look into further with 8.0.28.0 on the other computer.)

Hi Chelsea,

No, there were no problems importing the two files from Post with either 8.0.28.0 or 8.1.3.0

[NinjaTrader_ChelseaB]

Hello sidlercom80,

Ok, well this most likely indicates an issue when creating the export.

May I have you create a clean environment and re-download the installer for 8.1.3.0 and uninstall and re-install?

Please re-download the installer from the client portal and be sure to fully uninstall NinjaTrader from Windows Settings > Apps > Installed Apps.

https://account.ninjatrader.com/download

[-=Edge=-]

For some NinjaTrader vendors, myself included, we need to export from 8.1 to import into 8.1, and from 8.0 to import into 8.0. This is required because customers continue to run 8.0 and do not want to migrate to 8.1. Therefore, a practical solution is required. What is the official solution for that?

I am using and exporting from NT 8.0.28.0. No Issues Importing/Running on any NT version.
I presumed that to update to the new version of Agile would require new license key? No?

Can I use both at same time? My year up next mo and figured I'd convert everything then.
But if I can use both versions? I'll reach out to them now so that I can test things for myself.

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Everyone Needs to Read Thread Below! None of us have much choice but to update w/this change!
Either that, or severely limit your customers abilities to debug any of their custom scripts w/VS!

https://forum.ninjatrader.com/forum/ninjatrader-8/add-on-development/1299280-8-1-3-0-crashes-on-attach-to-process-in-visual-studio-2022

Can anyone confirm ability to export from NT 8.1.3.0 w/new agile and import into ANY NT???
Just want to confirm everything fixed/working (including debug), before spending my time!


Please Be Safe in this Crazy World!

[jeronymite]

I come back to simple questions:

1. What is required to export from 8.1 to import into 8.1?
2. What is required to export from 8.0 to import into 8.0?
3. Given that both of the above are required, what is the official supported solution to achieve both of these on the same system?

This not a "nice to have" matter. Customers who remain on 8.0 must be supported. Customers who choose to migrate to 8.1 must be supported. Both need support via exports from both versions (8.0 and 8.1). This must be made possible on one system.

Whilst export between streams (8.0 to 8.1 and 8.1 to 8.0) may be desirable for some, the questions above are the minimum requirement for adequate vendor support of the product.

Thanks.

[sidlercom80]

Hello sidlercom80,

Ok, well this most likely indicates an issue when creating the export.

May I have you create a clean environment and re-download the installer for 8.1.3.0 and uninstall and re-install?

Please re-download the installer from the client portal and be sure to fully uninstall NinjaTrader from Windows Settings > Apps > Installed Apps.
https://account.ninjatrader.com/download

Hi Chelsea,

I did exactly as you asked, unfortunately without success. First NT uninstalled, re-downloaded and re-installed.
Here is another video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17vL...ew?usp=sharing

Is it perhaps possible that the Agile version available for download is not the same one you are using for testing? I don't mean the version but the installer.

[QuantKey_Bruce]

Sadly, this seems like while we've made a small step forward, we now have at least a small step back. It seems to me we're still in the same boat we were in before - if you want to export a single assembly that's supported on every version the only sure choice is to export from 8.0.28.0 or 8.1.1.7 using the older Agile.NET? But, now, we have a new limitation that we can't debug that anymore using the current NinjaTrader version. Am I understanding this situation correctly? Has anyone outside of NinjaTrader been able to export a protected assembly using 8.1.3.x and Agile.NET 6.9.1.2 and then import it successfully into both 8.1.1.7 and 8.0.28.0?