Is Ninja trader able to be used with Schwab after TDA to Schwab change-over?

[jeronymite]

You can always use Schwab's platform, StreetSmart Edge, or even the TD Ameritrade platform thinkorswim (now on Schwab) ... but then you might not want to come back to NinjaTrader after that?

Thanks.

[NinjaTrader_Clayton]

Hello Everyone,

Thank you for the messages.

TD Ameritrade accounts that have not been moved over to Schwab yet are still able to use the TD Ameritrade Adapter and Connection Guide to connect within NinjaTrader so this information is still accurate.

If your account is no longer connecting with the TD Ameritrade connection, this would mean that it has been migrated to Schwab on the back end.

• Once the Account has been moved to Schwab, it will no longer be able to use the original TD Ameritrade API within NinjaTrader as it wasn't designed for use with the Schwab accounts.

Our development team is actively in the process of acquiring the new Schwab API and then integrating it so that we may release an updated version of NinjaTrader with the new API.

Until our development team has been able to integrate the new API, you are welcome to reach back out to TDA/Schwab and see if they can reverse the changes made to your account so that it still works on the old API. If not, you could ask them for more information on how the account could be accessed and traded until the new API has been integrated.

Please let us know if we may provide any further assistance.

[QuantKey_Bruce]

Additionally, NinjaTrader is now a competing broker at least for futures, while when TDA interfacing was built they were not.

[aligator]

I suppose. Sometimes even one person can make a difference - it's true.

That is the real point, and that one person is NinjaTrader_Ray to push this NT/TDA API through. The only time when things of major interest get done, from what I have seen on NexusFi forum, is when he steps in.

Having TOS as their jack-of-all-trades data source (futures, equities, options, forex), Schwab may no longer have the incentives to even develop an API for NT. Seems like the ball is in NinjaTrader court to actively push for this API to protect their interests and prevent the migration of the API userer to Schwab with free data. From what I have seen so far the NT response, with almost two years of advanced notice, has been close to passive.

Cheers!

[bortz]

The timeline for a new API is sometime in 2024, so there is hope if you have the patience to wait it out.

[theworldtocome4444]

This is very frustrating to not have the ameritrade connection working.

is anyone able to get it to connect?

[HopeaSay]

It's actually possible to still open a new TD account and it said on their website new accounts will be transferred sometime in 2024. I saw that on the last day when my TD account got transferred to Schwab. Maybe a stop gap measure to buy some time would be to open another account with TD and transfer everything back until they fix it? I don't have an immediate screen grab, but I promise, I read all of that on TD and Schwab web sites.

I agree the old API should be working if a new one isn't available, and I wouldn't think that would be an unreasonable ask. Ironically enough, Schwab had said that TD was still "admin" of ToS, so maybe that is where the support for this issue needs to come from, too.

[carnitron]

Is there some official word from TDA/Schwab/NT8 about what the migration plan is here? I obviously want to avoid being down for some indeterminate, possibly long, maybe forever amount of time against TDA/Schwab. It's fine to wait for the new API, but the old one really needs to keep working until we have the new one.

[carnitron]

FWIW, my account migration was put on hold and I am still going against TDA successfully. Not sure if this is b/c I already have Schwab accounts too.

[bortz]

And here's another puzzling question- Since the old API worked right up until the last TDA account holders were migrated over to Schwab, why didn't they just leave the old log in process and API in place since it still worked perfectly, (until a new API adapter was developed and functional)? That looks like there's no intention of helping out NT mgt. or it's users...

[bortz]

...and if nobody calls they'll never know this should be a bit of a priority and it may stay on the back burner indefinitely. I doubt NT is pushing anyone to get anything done. 2 years of account transfers and still no adapter API point to that fact. I'm cheap Bruce- the only reason I bought NT years ago, was because I could get a free live data stream via NT and TDA with IBKR as my main broker. Now, Schwab and NT have put the kibosh on my trading with no alternative but to pay 45/mo. for an IBKR feed that doesn't even offer non laggy up to the minute data feed, unless using TWS.

[QuantKey_Bruce]

I think you are misunderstanding the dynamics here. According to their web page, Schwab has 34.5 million funded trading accounts. I don't think they'll be swayed in their determination of their development priorities by some forum readers of NinjaTrader calling. But, it's worth a try, I suppose. Sometimes even one person can make a difference - it's true.

[bortz]

Contacted Schwab and they said I needed to talk to their tech dept. The phone # is1-877-519-1403 They open at 8AM EST. Maybe if enough of us call, we'll get some movement on this.

[QuantKey_Bruce]

That's a "no".

[huntitude]

Hello bortz,

Thank you for posting.

TD Ameritrade accounts that have moved to Schwab are currently unable to connect due to a change in TDA/Schwab’s API integration. We have contacted TDA/Schwab and they have let us know they are currently working on a new API that they will share with us once it is available, which will allow our development team to build and test a new connection adapter.

Unfortunately, we do not currently have a workaround or expected timeline for this solution.

Please let us know if you have any other questions.

Thank you, will wait for further updates!