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    #16
    Originally posted by shooter View Post
    r2ktrader,

    What is the best 64 bit OS you think, is it Win XP Pro 64 bit or possibly upcoming windows 7 64 bit? Trying to see,which OS to put on future new machine that can run Ninja 7 Beta ( 64 bit application).

    Did you try lite version of XP Pro 64 bit,.. not sure how long Microsoft will support XP Pro 64 bit.

    Looking forward to Ninja 7, hoping it handles long term tick/volume charts more efficiently memory wise.

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    Shooter
    This one is easy. Windows 7 hands down. The PRIMARY reason I say this is simply because of drivers and getting on the right team going foward. The wind will be at your back, verses you going against it.

    I tested W7 and if felt like XP meets Vista without the crap. (or less crap)

    Something else to consider is trying to ONLY install "Portable Applications". This means you set them up old school in that they don't make any registry changes or put crap in your Docs and Setting folders etc. It's just a stand alone version of an application that you could move around.

    This way, if you need to "clean your computer". Boot your BartPE disk that has snapshot, point to your "clean snapshot image", re-image your C: drive and then you are back to "clean state" without the hassle of losing your settings. I use FireFox because I can run it stand alone and kill all the .sol Flash Cookies (very evil what flash is doing with the spying, do some searches on this issue and see how you are being tracked if intersted). Anyway, here are some other apps that you can run stand alone and avoid windows getting "bloated" during normal usage. (by the way, run them on a thumb drive or another partition to keep things clean).

    vlcLAN = fantastic, you don't need anything else and you can steam to your mobile device if it supports browser based streaming (windows mobile for example)

    FireFox = Make sure you get the base addons that will kill all the Flash Cookies if you care about privacy. Also, be careful not to add too many addons as it will affect your performance.

    Ccleaner =

    Orbiter = This is for any of you who have children. Check out this opensource project, you will be impressed.

    GnuCash = you don't need Quickbooks\Quicken (they sell your information anyway and will be happy to turn over your data to the IRS, so go opensource here. GnuCash has come a Long way.

    OpenOffice = I have been extensively tesing with OpenOffice and I have reached the point where I have forgot I am running it. It just works and works great. Give it a try and save your 500.00 for a NT license.

    Synergy = if you have more than one PC, get this. Just get it and use it. If you need help, just ask.

    SumatraPDF = DO NOT INSTALL ADOBE UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. It is GARBAGE BLOAT SPYWARE. But other than that, it's ok, lol.

    KeyPass = OpenSource is the only solution I would allow to store my passwords. This is a great tool because if you are like me, you have way too many passwords in your life. This will help you get it under control. If you want a password consolidator and don't want to keep it in a spreadsheet, this is a great play.

    PNotes = A great little PostIt note pad for your PC. Not for everyone, but nice to know about.

    ClamWinPortable = great virus checker if you want something that won't take over your system.

    CacheSet = mentioned earlier. For advanced users only.

    JKDefrag = why use any other defragger. I dont install the windows backup, defragger, or any of their crap. I just use JKDefrag (which runs as my screensaver), snapshot.

    Speaking of security, I would suggest that after you get setup, just change yourself to a restricted user. You may need to give yourself rights to Ninja's folders, or switch to power user, but as a restricted user, you will be much safer. I don't run a virus program because they all stink in my opinion. Instead, I use the Anti-Vir (the best in my opinion) bootable ISO with Network support (snags the latest definitions before running a check). So you just boot your PC from the Virus disk, scan your system, and know that you are really scanning the right way. Scanning from within a system is WORTHLESS. A good virus will hijack your virus scanner anyway and you can't be 100% certain that you are getting a true analysis. With a clean boot from a read only disk, you know that your scan is accurate. It's your world, I am just sharing what I have found to work and work well and also offer you the best performance.

    In my opinion, Norton is worse than the spyware it pretends to fight and I don't trust them with all their marketing crap. Junk if you ask me. Antivir is free and fast and has one of the best, if not the best scanning results in its peer group. So there is another 100.00 per year you can put toward your NT License.

    With the Internet and Computers where they are today, I have simply resolved to keep a tweaked, clean C: image and burn it back to my C: partition the moment I sense degradation. I am so sick of third party applications behaving as though they are the only application on my system that I will just blast the whole thing clean with an image that was tweaked to date.

    Finally, and especially with NT, you really want to consider Raid0 or the like. (I don't want to start a RAID debate) With drives so cheap, get a SATA raid controller (if your board doesn't already have one, most newer ones do) and a matching Hard Drive, double your capacity and your performance. This is a very cheap upgrade and will make a great difference when working with large amounts of data. You will definitely noteice performance overall. This is due to the fact that you are working in parallel with your hard drives. So it like two lane highway compared to one lane. Common sense here. So imagine how much faster your system will be when your pagefile.sys (swapping) is increased by 2x (debatable).

    Ok, not perfect, but a rough outline to serve as guidance. I hope this helps someone. I sure spent a world of time testing and while I am sure there may be better solutions, I found this to be tight and clean.

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      #17
      Originally posted by tradr View Post
      here's a sample thread re using vlite on windows 7
      does vlite support windows 7 ? or will support ? or gonna be new app for it ?i know that windows 7 m1 work fine cos its really like vista


      you'll need to be a member to use Search: windows7
      where you'll find more threads: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?
      Or just search from google because google doesn't respect websites by default so you can bypass the need to signup as google will be able to search the forums. This also works well for ExpertExchange.com where they ask you to signup to read the answer/solution to a given question.

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        #18
        Attached is a list of services running on my clean twaked Ninja Box. This might help others. Bear in mind, I don't have Windows update or BITs running and I manually turn them on when I update.windows.com if need be.

        Also, Print Spooler is off, and I only turn it on when I need to print. I have one PC that spooler runs on and with the move of my mouse using synergy, I can pull the doc/pic/etc. on that box and print from there. Lean baby LEAN! Stay LEAN!


        Here is a snapshot of what was NOT installed (I also ran XPLite afterwards and scrubbed even more. I used XPlite so I can re-install if necessary. Spent the 40.00 for this convenience verses burning new disks for each iteration of testing.)

        Components removed:
        Languages
        Languages
        Accessibility Options
        Briefcase
        Charmap
        ClipBook Viewer
        Defragmenter
        Games
        Internet Games
        Pinball
        Screensavers
        Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM)
        ISDN
        Multifunctional
        Tape drives
        Toshiba DVD decoder card
        Multi-port serial adapters
        Smart Cards
        Albanian keyboard
        Arabic (101) keyboard
        Arabic (102) AZERTY keyboard
        Arabic (102) keyboard
        Armenian Eastern keyboard
        Armenian Western keyboard
        Azeri Cyrillic keyboard
        Azeri Latin keyboard
        Belarusian keyboard
        Belgian (Comma) keyboard
        Belgian (Period) keyboard
        Belgian French keyboard
        Bengali (Inscript) keyboard
        Bengali keyboard
        Bosnian Cyrillic keyboard
        Bosnian keyboard
        Bulgarian (Latin) keyboard
        Bulgarian keyboard
        Canadian French (Legacy) keyboard
        Canadian French keyboard
        Canadian Multilingual Standard keyboard
        Chinese (Simplified) - Microsoft Pinyin IME 3.0 keyboard
        Chinese (Simplified) - NeiMa keyboard
        Chinese (Simplified) - QuanPin keyboard
        Chinese (Simplified) - ShuangPin keyboard
        Chinese (Simplified) - US Keyboard keyboard
        Chinese (Simplified) - ZhengMa keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - Alphanumeric keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - Array keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - Big5 Code keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - ChangJie keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - DaYi keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - New ChangJie keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - New Phonetic keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - Phonetic keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - Quick keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - Unicode keyboard
        Chinese (Traditional) - US Keyboard keyboard
        Croatian keyboard
        Czech (QWERTY) keyboard
        Czech keyboard
        Czech Programmers keyboard
        Danish keyboard
        Devanagari - INSCRIPT keyboard
        Divehi Phonetic keyboard
        Divehi Typewriter keyboard
        Dutch keyboard
        Estonian keyboard
        Faeroese keyboard
        Farsi keyboard
        Finnish keyboard
        Finnish with Sami keyboard
        French keyboard
        FYRO Macedonian keyboard
        Gaelic keyboard
        Georgian keyboard
        German (IBM) keyboard
        German keyboard
        Greek (220) keyboard
        Greek (220) Latin keyboard
        Greek (319) keyboard
        Greek (319) Latin keyboard
        Greek keyboard
        Greek Latin keyboard
        Greek Polytonic keyboard
        Gujarati keyboard
        Hebrew keyboard
        Hindi Traditional keyboard
        Hungarian 101-key keyboard
        Hungarian keyboard
        Icelandic keyboard
        Inuktitut Latin keyboard
        Irish keyboard
        Italian (142) keyboard
        Italian keyboard
        Japanese Input System (MS-IME2002) keyboard
        Japanese keyboard
        Kannada keyboard
        Kazakh keyboard
        Korean Input System (IME 2000) keyboard
        Korean keyboard
        Kyrgyz Cyrillic keyboard
        Latin American keyboard
        Latvian (QWERTY) keyboard
        Latvian keyboard
        Lithuanian IBM keyboard
        Lithuanian keyboard
        Luxembourgish keyboard
        Malayalam keyboard
        Maltese 47-key keyboard
        Maltese 48-key keyboard
        Maori keyboard
        Marathi keyboard
        Mongolian Cyrillic keyboard
        Nepali keyboard
        Norwegian keyboard
        Norwegian with Sami keyboard
        Pashto keyboard
        Polish (214) keyboard
        Polish (Programmers) keyboard
        Portuguese (Brazilian ABNT) keyboard
        Portuguese (Brazilian ABNT2) keyboard
        Portuguese keyboard
        Punjabi keyboard
        Romanian keyboard
        Russian (Typewriter) keyboard
        Russian keyboard
        Sami Extended Finland-Sweden keyboard
        Sami Extended Norway keyboard
        Serbian (Cyrillic) keyboard
        Serbian (Latin) keyboard
        Slovak (QWERTY) keyboard
        Slovak keyboard
        Slovenian keyboard
        Spanish keyboard
        Spanish Variation keyboard
        Swedish keyboard
        Swedish with Sami keyboard
        Swiss French keyboard
        Swiss German keyboard
        Syriac keyboard
        Syriac Phonetic keyboard
        Tamil keyboard
        Tatar keyboard
        Telugu keyboard
        Thai Kedmanee (non-ShiftLock) keyboard
        Thai Kedmanee keyboard
        Thai Pattachote (non-ShiftLock) keyboard
        Thai Pattachote keyboard
        Turkish F keyboard
        Turkish Q keyboard
        Ukrainian keyboard
        United Kingdom Extended keyboard
        United Kingdom keyboard
        United States-Dvorak for left hand keyboard
        United States-Dvorak for right hand keyboard
        United States-Dvorak keyboard
        United States-International keyboard
        Urdu keyboard
        US English Table for IBM Arabic 238_L keyboard
        Uzbek Cyrillic keyboard
        Vietnamese keyboard
        AOL ART Image Format Support
        Images and Backgrounds
        Luna desktop theme
        Media Center
        Mouse Cursors
        Movie Maker
        Music Samples
        Old CDPlayer and Sound Recorder
        Speech Support
        Tablet PC
        Windows Media Player
        Client for Netware Networks
        Communication tools
        FrontPage Extensions
        H323 MSP
        Internet Connection Wizard
        Internet Information Services (IIS)
        IP Conferencing
        MAC Bridge
        MSN Explorer
        Netmeeting
        Network Monitor Driver and Tools
        NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Protocol
        Peer-to-Peer
        Synchronization Manager
        Vector Graphics Rendering (VML)
        Web Folders
        Windows Messenger
        .NET Framework
        Administrative Templates
        Administrator VB scripts
        Blaster/Nachi removal tool
        Color Schemes
        Disk Cleanup
        Document Templates
        FAT to NTFS converter
        File and Settings Wizard
        Help and Support
        Private Character Editor
        Search Assistant
        Shell Media Handler
        Tour
        User account pictures
        Web View
        Alerter
        Fax Service
        Messenger
        Remote Registry
        Removable Storage
        Route Listening Service
        System Restore Service
        Telnet
        Uninterruptible Power Supply
        DOCS
        SUPPORT
        VALUEADD
        Languages
        Attached Files

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          #19
          Thank you r2ktrader.

          Lots of great tips and information. I appreciate it very much.

          --
          Shooter

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