NinjaTrader dev, backtest replay mode only - login bypass

[MicroTrends]

Could have a mode whereby you chose to not login to NT8 and click an X top right or a button to close the login
or hold a key sequence a bit like safe mode

So nt8 cant start and you can use it for development only or to back-test a strategy for example or use the replay
a trader/dev might have several servers or workstations and not need to login for trading sim or live etc

[NinjaTrader_BrandonH]

Hello MicroTrends,

Thanks for your post.

We are tracking interest for this in an internal feature request ticket and I have added your vote. This request is being tracked under the number SFT-5802.

As with all feature requests, interest is tracked before implementation is considered, so we cannot offer an ETA or promise of fulfillment. If implemented, it will be noted in the Release Notes page of the Help Guide.

Release Notes — https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...ease_notes.htm

Please let us know if we may be of further assistance to you.

[MicroTrends]

Hello MicroTrends,

Thanks for your post.

We are tracking interest for this in an internal feature request ticket and I have added your vote. This request is being tracked under the number SFT-5802.

As with all feature requests, interest is tracked before implementation is considered, so we cannot offer an ETA or promise of fulfillment. If implemented, it will be noted in the Release Notes page of the Help Guide.

Release Notes — https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...ease_notes.htm

Please let us know if we may be of further assistance to you.

ok awesome ty

[koganam]

Why is this even a issue to discuss? Why do I have to login to anything if I want to develop on my local machine?

[QuantKey_Bruce]

Why is this even a issue to discuss? Why do I have to login to anything if I want to develop on my local machine?

Because in the version 8.1 and above, NinjaTrader is currently structured as a service that requires internet access (at least at startup), and it needs to retrieve your user entitlements from your account on their server before it can start up (since there are no license keys anymore). There are numerous threads already requesting that it "remember me and keep me signed in" but it does not do this yet.

[koganam]

Because in the version 8.1 and above, NinjaTrader is currently structured as a service that requires internet access (at least at startup), and it needs to retrieve your user entitlements from your account on their server before it can start up (since there are no license keys anymore). There are numerous threads already requesting that it "remember me and keep me signed in" but it does not do this yet.

That is what makes no sense. So if I travel for a quiet weekend in the boondocks, with no internet, and want to work on my development on my local machine, I cannot even start the program to write code on the local machine? Local development should not require internet access. Heck, one can develop an entire website without going online, then test later. That I cannot develop a Ninjascript indicator if my internet access is not available does not make sense. There is no lipstick that makes this particular pig look good.

[MicroTrends]

Why is this even a issue to discuss? Why do I have to login to anything if I want to develop on my local machine?

yep basically its an offline mode... no thrills no spills -
bare bones dev, backtest, replay on historical downloaded and that's about it...


BUT NOTE:

however there is such a thing as cookies and persisted roles/claims /state
so these can be stored with a sliding expiry window so no server is required to authenticate
with this model SUSI you write an encrypted token to the disk for the authentication with a sliding expiry etc
you can also then access local cache of user claims/roles too and then access features still offline as a bonus if required
or just the login

https://forum.ninjatrader.com/forum/suggestions-and-feedback/suggestions-and-feedback-aa/1240204-nt-universal-login-susi-to-replace-the-current-nt8-login

[koganam]

yep basically its an offline mode... no thrills no spills -
bare bones dev, backtest, replay on historical downloaded and that's about it...


BUT NOTE:

however there is such a thing as cookies and persisted roles/claims /state
so these can be stored with a sliding expiry window so no server is required to authenticate
with this model SUSI you write an encrypted token to the disk for the authentication with a sliding expiry etc
you can also then access local cache of user claims/roles too and then access features still offline as a bonus if required
or just the login

https://forum.ninjatrader.com/forum/suggestions-and-feedback/suggestions-and-feedback-aa/1240204-nt-universal-login-susi-to-replace-the-current-nt8-login

Maybe we misunderstand each other? I do not see why we need to discuss it: it should have been possible ab initio. Why do I have to beg to be allowed to develop offline is what I am asking.

[MicroTrends]

Maybe we misunderstand each other? I do not see why we need to discuss it: it should have been possible ab initio. Why do I have to beg to be allowed to develop offline is what I am asking.

100% i understand perfectly you want the same as my suggestion - offline no login mode... seems that was overlooked
fingers crossed we get it - will be essential in many ways for sure., i was often in places with no internet and so on and sometimes working in private networks with no wan.
i can still use VStudio ofcourse but its nice to be able to start NT8 and compile it and see it on a chart also :-)

[MicroTrends]

Hello MicroTrends,

Thanks for your post.

We are tracking interest for this in an internal feature request ticket and I have added your vote. This request is being tracked under the number SFT-5802.

As with all feature requests, interest is tracked before implementation is considered, so we cannot offer an ETA or promise of fulfillment. If implemented, it will be noted in the Release Notes page of the Help Guide.

Release Notes — https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...ease_notes.htm

Please let us know if we may be of further assistance to you.​

Hi so there could be another reason for wanting this feature.
For example i could have 8 to 10 instances easily sometimes.

dev
Staging user acceptance testing
build sign and setup
deployment testing
backtesting 1 to 4 in parrallel
pre production sim testing
1 or 2 for actual trading

Some of those would be ok to have no login no services just the basic shell so to speak - some would need a license and services via the login process. im assuming there would be a limit to the number of concurrent logins etc

[MicroTrends]

Why is this even a issue to discuss? Why do I have to login to anything if I want to develop on my local machine?

How about suggestion and flow?

https://forum.ninjatrader.com/forum/suggestions-and-feedback/suggestions-and-feedback-aa/1240204-nt-universal-login-susi-to-replace-the-current-nt8-login

[NinjaTrader_BrandonH]

Hello MicroTrends, koganam, and QuantKey_Bruce,

Thanks for your notes.

I have added your suggestions to the internal feature request ticket for the Development team to see.

If implemented, the feature request will be noted in the Release Notes page of the Help Guide.

Please let me know if I may assist further.

[jeronymite]

Definitely +1 please. (Nice to see you back here again koganam , despite the circumstances.)

Thanks.

[QuantKey_Bruce]

Yes, I'm not sure how many different places this is being tracked (and I'm not trying to vote more than once - just to make sure this is understood to be a true need), but please allow an offline login in some form. I've made more in-depth suggestions in other threads as have others but we need a way to get into the platform without typing in the credentials (assuming we've previously signed in successfully), and we need a way to get into the platform in offline mode if there is no internet. These ways should require no clicking or have some option such as a command line option to invoke them for scripting purposes.

[NinjaTrader_BrandonH]

Hello Jeronymite,

Thanks for your note.

I have added your vote to this feature request.

Please let me know if I may assist further.