NinjaTrader Web?

[NinjaTrader_ChelseaB]

Hello eDanny,

Ah.. I see. Because the web trader uses a different language, this is not cloud based.

Unfortunately, there will not be any plans to port C# to the webtrader. But is possible to run NinjaTrader on a VPS.

The nature of programming is that desktop and web application generally use different programming languages. Unfortunately, C#, which is a pre-compiled language, is not native to a browser, while JavaScript, a just-in-time compiler, is.

[FishTrade]

He is saying Tradovate is NOT NinjaTrader because it is NOT compatible with Ninja scripts and therefore wishes there was a cloud based NinjaTrader.

@ChelseaB.... Danny is very clear.

[QuantKey_Bruce]

It seems to me that if a stripped-down subset of NinjaTrader Desktop were built that was capable of being run in a browser at all, it would be unrecognizable as NinjaTrader Desktop, and already, every or almost every substantial indicator and strategy previously written would be incompatible. NinjaTrader Desktop was designed, over a period of many years, with the assumption that it was running on a desktop Windows installation and had access to all of that computer's resources. If they were to redesign NinjaTrader such that it would run in a browser ("cloud-based") you would find that it would look a lot more like Tradovate, and it would not be recognizably NinjaTrader Desktop, nor would it possibly run the existing indicators and strategies, many of which directly access computer resources (SharpDX, files on the disk, etc.) that would be unavailable to a browser-based application. So, what you are asking for, in essentially asking for an application that looks and works just like NinjaTrader Desktop and is compatible with all of the existing indicators and strategies but runs in a browser and therefore doesn't even run on Windows anymore... is essentially that you are requesting that a full Windows environment be built within the browser session (like a VPS instance)... you would probably not like the performance of this and there would be a myriad of issues. If you must be compatible with all of the existing NinjaScript indicators and strategies, you would be much better served to run the real NinjaTrader Desktop on a VPS and access it from your phone or whatever it is you want to access it from. I suspect that the more you understood about how NinjaTrader Desktop works under the hood the more you would think that running it with full performance and full capabilities in a browser is not going to happen ever. That's why it made more sense to incorporate something like Tradovate as a web-driven alternative. It would have been nice if it were more like NinjaTrader Desktop but that is a heavy lift and what you would get at the end would still not be fully compatible and we'd have a whole new slew of forum posts a few years later when that was done about how the new one is incompatible and can't do some things the old one could do and is so much slower when run on a browser, etc., etc.

[FishTrade]

Bruce DeVault, than you for complete explanation. Perhaps VPN is something I should look into. I have NinjaTrader on more than one PC (Home & Work) & it is important to be able to access same information & setups on both (or multiple PCs) without each time copying files from one PC to another.

[FishTrade]

Hello eDanny,

Ah.. I see. Because the web trader uses a different language, this is not cloud based.

Unfortunately, there will not be any plans to port C# to the webtrader. But is possible to run NinjaTrader on a VPS.

The nature of programming is that desktop and web application generally use different programming languages. Unfortunately, C#, which is a pre-compiled language, is not native to a browser, while JavaScript, a just-in-time compiler, is.

@ChealseB, Now that I understand why Ninjatrader platform cannot be web based, please explain how does VPS works & how I can begin to set up a VPs so I can access Ninjatrader from any PC.

[JosephDavidsona]

thanks for info

[NinjaTrader_ChelseaB]

Hello,

There are a handful of third-party VPS providers that would allow you to run NinjaTrader on a remote server. Here is a link to the NinjaTrader Ecosystem website with search results for third-party VPS providers. You can find more information about these companies by visiting their websites and contacting them directly:

• https://ninjatraderecosystem.com/sea...fwp_search=VPS

The NinjaTrader Ecosystem website is for educational and informational purposes only and should not be considered a solicitation to buy or sell a futures contract or make any other type of investment decision. The companies and services listed on this website are not to be considered a recommendation and it is the reader's responsibility to evaluate any product, service, or company. NinjaTrader Ecosystem LLC is not responsible for the accuracy or content of any product, service or company linked to on this website.

Let me know if I may be of further assistance.

[JosephDavidsona]

Thanks for info. Website development really hard process but ninjatrader web would be cool thing

[Shifu987]

So I have a lifetime license Ninjatrader. However 8.xx Desktop is buggy and old. Get Real .... it stinks......Ninja Web is limited.
1. Is Tradeovate included with the Ninja Lifetime?
2. How do we trade from Tradeovate to our Ninja Broker Account?
3. WTF.... do I have to pay for Tradeovate as well to get quality charting and 3rd party tools?

[NinjaTrader_ChelseaB]

Hello Shifu987,

The NinjaTrader Brokerage connection (which is based on Tradovate) is available to all accounts. (Whether or not you have imported a legacy license)

If you are referring to the Tradovate platform, this cannot be used to trade a NinjaTrader Brokerage account. You would need to fund an account with Tradovate directly.
NinjaTrader Brokerage accounts can only be traded from NinjaTrader Desktop or webtrader.

For any inquiries about the Tradovate platform, please reach out to the Tradovate support team.

https://www.tradovate.com/contact-us/

[DrakeiJosh]

It seems to me that if a stripped-down subset of NinjaTrader Desktop were built that was capable of being run in a browser at all, it would be unrecognizable as NinjaTrader Desktop, and already, every or almost every substantial indicator and strategy previously written would be incompatible. NinjaTrader Desktop was designed, over a period of many years, with the assumption that it was running on a desktop Windows installation and had access to all of that computer's resources. If they were to redesign NinjaTrader such that it would run in a browser ("cloud-based") you would find that it would look a lot more like Tradovate, and it would not be recognizably NinjaTrader Desktop, nor would it possibly run the existing indicators and strategies, many of which directly access computer resources (SharpDX, files on the disk, etc.) that would be unavailable to a browser-based application. So, what you are asking for, in essentially asking for an application that looks and works just like NinjaTrader Desktop and is compatible with all of the existing indicators and strategies but runs in a browser and therefore doesn't even run on Windows anymore... is essentially that you are requesting that a full Windows environment be built within the browser session (like a VPS instance)... you would probably not like the performance of this and there would be a myriad of issues. If you must be compatible with all of the existing NinjaScript indicators and strategies, you would be much better served to run the real NinjaTrader Desktop on a VPS and access it from your phone or whatever it is you want to access it from. I suspect that the more you understood about how NinjaTrader Desktop works under the hood the more you would think that running it with full performance and full capabilities in a browser is not going to happen ever. That's why it made more sense to incorporate something like Tradovate as a web-driven alternative. Maybe web version should use something like that https://claspo.io/templates/use-case/slider/ It would have been nice if it were more like NinjaTrader Desktop but that is a heavy lift and what you would get at the end would still not be fully compatible and we'd have a whole new slew of forum posts a few years later when that was done about how the new one is incompatible and can't do some things the old one could do and is so much slower when run on a browser, etc., etc.

It's a challenging proposition. Translating a desktop application like NinjaTrader to a browser platform would require significant redesign. This might lead to losing some of the specialized functionalities that are dependent on desktop resources. A cloud-based version would inevitably differ from the original, perhaps resembling more streamlined platforms like Tradovate, but losing the unique aspects of NinjaTrader