High end CPU vs Mid tier CPU+Dedicated graphics?

[NickyD]

Hi,

I'm looking to upgrade my workstation and am trying to figure out where I should be spending my money in terms of components.

If I had a CPU like an AMD Ryzen 9 7900X - would you expect NT8 to perform significantly better on this system if it was paired with a high end GPU as well, versus using the Integrated Graphics? I've not noticed very extensive usage of my current GPU by NT, so I am currently under the thought that choosing a higher end CPU with integrated graphics is a good trade off versus a good (but not top tier cpu) paired with a dedicated gpu.

If it matters for consideration - most of the indicators I use are more analysis heavy, with fairly simple custom rendering. I do use one that draws a volume profile per bar, but that's the most "graphics intense" thing I've added.

I usually have 8 or less symbols loaded, so almost any chip I choose will have enough cores for NT's one instrument per core.

Thanks,
Nick

[QuantKey_Bruce]

most of the indicators I use are more analysis heavy, with fairly simple custom rendering

This is probably your answer right there.

What you should probably do is check your CPU % on your current configuration. If it's rarely above 10%, then the CPU doesn't really matter. Make sure you have plenty of RAM, and that you are not maxing out your usage of physical memory. 2D GPU performance matters, but only to a point, if as you say, you're only doing limited rendering. 3D GPU performance (the kind used for games) does not matter AT ALL as this is not utilized.

[NinjaTrader_JustinD]

Hello NickyD,

Thank you for using NinjaTrader.


Unfortunately, our team is unable to recommend specific computers or hardware components, however, here are our Minimum & Recommended System Requirements for NinjaTrader for a good baseline as you look to upgrade your computer for use with the platform.

As always, please feel free to write in with any additional questions you have regarding NinjaTrader.

[bltdavid]

I'd highly recommend a minimum of 32GB for all
trading PCs.

Why?

Sure NT8 might use a lot, but consider that you might
also run some other pretty standard programs on your
trading machine, such as,
Chrome
Firefox
Zoom
Discord
Skype
Excel

I've noticed these extra programs, esp browsers, can
really suck up the extra space.

I have 16GB on my main trading machine. Doing nothing
but my standard trading activities, which includes apps listed
above, I sometimes find myself having too many things open,
because I can see my system push its 16GB limits.

My solution is usually to exit Chrome or Firefox, since that
frees up a ton of space -- esp, if you have too many tabs.

My point is: 32GB should be your minimum requirement.

That, and an 1TB SSD (better if NVMe SSD), and you're
probably gonna be fine for many years.



When selecting a GPU card, IMHO you should be concerned
more with it's support for multi-monitors than anything else.

I have 6 monitors on a Radeon 7750, works absolutely fine,
but I play zero games on my trading machine.

[Tin34]

I'd highly recommend a minimum of 32GB for all
trading PCs.

Why?

Sure NT8 might use a lot, but consider that you might
also run some other pretty standard programs on your
trading machine, such as,
Chrome
Firefox
Zoom
Discord
Skype
Excel

I've noticed these extra programs, esp browsers, can
really suck up the extra space.

I have 16GB on my main trading machine. Doing nothing
but my standard trading activities, which includes apps listed
above, I sometimes find myself having too many things open,
because I can see my system push its 16GB limits.

My solution is usually to exit Chrome or Firefox, since that
frees up a ton of space -- esp, if you have too many tabs.

My point is: 32GB should be your minimum requirement.

That, and an 1TB SSD (better if NVMe SSD), and you're
probably gonna be fine for many years.



When selecting a GPU card, IMHO you should be concerned
more with it's support for multi-monitors than anything else.

I have 6 monitors on a Radeon 7750, works absolutely fine,
but I play zero games on my trading machine.

I'm experiencing now the same situation as you.

Did yo managed to solve this? I'm thinking about 64gb ram and 16 cores 32 threads cpu.. my gpu is a 7800Xt 16gb ram.

[bltdavid]

Yes, in my case .... it was simple ...
I don't run a browser while trading on the same PC as the trading PC.

I do all my browser things beforehand, then usually exit it before I start
trading -- I found having a browser open while trading usually invites
unnecessary distractions.

I mean, trading can be quite boring. Closing the browser helps me
keep focused, and also saves on memory.

[AndyM]

This is probably your answer right there.

What you should probably do is check your CPU % on your current configuration. If it's rarely above 10%, then the CPU doesn't really matter. Make sure you have plenty of RAM, and that you are not maxing out your usage of physical memory. 2D GPU performance matters, but only to a point, if as you say, you're only doing limited rendering. 3D GPU performance (the kind used for games) does not matter AT ALL as this is not utilized.

Good advice. Thanks