Did you read the post I linked above where NinjaTrader explained how Simulation works?
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Also you never directly answered my actual questions in the first post, as usual. Have any answers to that, just for the hell of it?
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Originally posted by QuantKey_Bruce View PostWell, I actually think it's a great platform for what it is designed to do. I believe you may have some misunderstandings about how it is designed to work which is why I took the time to explain some of these points to you.
Great business, great platform. For sure. This is getting better and better by the post
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Originally posted by imonlysleeping View PostAlso you never directly answered my actual questions in the first post, as usual. Have any answers to that, just for the hell of it?
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Originally posted by QuantKey_Bruce View Post
Did you read the post I linked above where NinjaTrader explained how Simulation works?
No legit and professional platform/broker/data provider goes out of their way this much to confuse their users and have them so mind numbingly stupified, that those users end up just saying **** it and starting a live account to try and understand wtf might actually be going on. Once they do that they still realize its just as confusing as before so they quit for good, like me. I will find a better platform for my needs.
Thanks but no thanks.Last edited by imonlysleeping; 04-29-2023, 02:18 PM.
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Originally posted by QuantKey_Bruce View Post
Well, my first thought was that maybe you clicked on Simulation thinking it was only simulated fills, and didn't realize the market data would be different also, which is why I tried to get that clarified before any of us spend any more time on it if the data wasn't real data.Last edited by imonlysleeping; 04-29-2023, 02:21 PM.
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I don't think they have done anything deliberately confusing. My only suggestion was to clarify the wording of "Simulation" so it's understood whether or not it's a "Simulated Data Feed." As you can see in the original post, I was confused and thought it was not simulated data also in addition to being simulated fills, yet NinjaTrader later clarified that is is simulated data unless the user subscribes to live market data. I otherwise think it's quite clear. That wording was all new to us, because it only debuted in March, so some of us who have been with NinjaTrader for almost 20 years now needed a bit of time to catch up with the exact meaning of the new wording because before simulated data was always called "Simulated Data Feed" and now "Simulation" covers both cases.Last edited by QuantKey_Bruce; 04-29-2023, 02:23 PM.
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Originally posted by imonlysleeping View Post
Why the **** would anyone want simulated data that isn't real? NT can go to hell hahaha
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Originally posted by QuantKey_Bruce View Post
Because some people don't want to pay market data fees, I assume. But, I think that's a mistake personally - people should pay the fees and have live data. But they're trying to make it as frictionless as possible to sign up so it's helpful to get a signup without requiring any payment I'm assuming.
Let it be known, i'm PAYING for data and still getting completely wacky results. So lost amongst NT's myriad of trash pile options maze, that i have no idea what is real or not. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
BOTTOM LINE: If the data you are paying for has no correlation with any of the data you are doing testing on, we must all admit that IDIOCY has taken over somewhere in the chain and we must question what is going on and if chaos and madness has taken over. That was my humble goal in this thread, and i think it has been achieved and confirmed. When you ask questions, you only move deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole of insanity.Last edited by imonlysleeping; 04-29-2023, 02:35 PM.
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I asked for the wording to be clarified. That's all I can do. Users should subscribe to live market data, clearly. But some people who are just signing up and trying it out (so they can see if they like the charts or whatever) don't want to pay anything yet, so I suppose this gives them a way to kick the tires a bit. Yet, they should sign up for live data before they do anything serious, of course, and if the wording were more clear, maybe that process could be improved further.
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Originally posted by QuantKey_Bruce View PostI asked for the wording to be clarified. That's all I can do. Users should subscribe to live market data, clearly. But some people who are just signing up and trying it out (so they can see if they like the charts or whatever) don't want to pay anything yet, so I suppose this gives them a way to kick the tires a bit. Yet, they should sign up for live data before they do anything serious, of course, and if the wording were more clear, maybe that process could be improved further.
In other words, the live data which comes in turns into fake data once its in the app, as you saw from my first post in this thread. Think about this, i know you're not that dumb. Its a scam.
Otherwise, i guess you have to spend 6 months "recording" the live data into your computer yourself, and even after all that wasted time, why would i expect that to work correctly at this point? Lol i definitely wouldn't fall for that.
Someone CHANGE MY MIND about NT. Bruce, do you know of any other platforms that actually work for custom automated systems that can handle tick charts?Last edited by imonlysleeping; 04-29-2023, 02:46 PM.
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I believe that NinjaTrader works but you're confusing some basic points here. I'm sure there's a logical explanation. I don't think you've gotten to the bottom of the question at hand yet, but it's not going to turn out to be a scam - it will turn out to be a misunderstanding of how things work or something you missed accidentally, in the end.
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Originally posted by QuantKey_Bruce View PostI believe that NinjaTrader works but you're confusing some basic points here. I'm sure there's a logical explanation. I don't think you've gotten to the bottom of the question at hand yet, but it's not going to turn out to be a scam - it will turn out to be a misunderstanding of how things work or something you missed accidentally, in the end.
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