Previous version of 8.0.28.0

[brenthilburn]

Hello Ninjatrader...

I see that the previous production version of 8.0.27.1 is no longer available as a download through the portal...

So my choices are now 8.1.1.4 which was just released or a version that... what? Was it ever released and installed anywhere?

What is the difference between 8.0.27.1 and the new/old version of 8.0.28.0?

There are customers/users/traders who don't want the hassle of 8.1.X.X at this point so what is their alternative other than 28.0?

[QuantKey_Bruce]

I believe the key issue here is that if you were to stay on 8.0.27.x CQG and Continuum would fail in a month or two because of updated server certificate requirements, so it's a required upgrade or everything would stop working for a substantial fraction of the userbase.

[QuantKey_Bruce]

See also the very last note listed at https://ninjatrader.com/support/help...t8/8_1_1_4.htm.

Updated a CQG Server Certificate. All users connecting via Continuum or CQG are required to update to this version on or before June 30th, 2023.

This means that 8.0.27.1 is not a viable option for more than the next 60 days or so - upgrading to 8.0.28.x is the shortest and straightest path if you want to keep everything functioning with the most popular connections.

If you perhaps don't use Continuum or CQG, you could stay on 8.0.27.1 but for many NinjaTrader users that will not be an option.

[jeronymite]

Have to wonder how it will affect NT7 users, of which there may well be quite a few.

Thanks.

[NinjaTrader_Ray]

NinjaTrader 7 not impacted as it already has the required certificate. That said, there maybe a required update for another CQG related item, we will provide more information once we have it.

[Leeroy_Jenkins]

I hoped I can use 8.0.26 forever. That Watch button next to minimize is really annoying.

[brucerobinson]

I recently and very reluctantly (due to the heavily documented User objections to not being able to remove/disable the Watch Live button) ‘upgraded’ from 26.0 to 27.1.
Yesterday, I had chart lag of 27 seconds. I have not seen chart lag >1 sec in over a year with pre- .27 versions…….
No it’s no my internet connection
No it’s not third-party indicators
No it’s not my pc
No it’s not my data provider
What’s changed? There’s your smoking gun……

[bltdavid]

I recently and very reluctantly (due to the heavily documented User objections to not being able to remove/disable the Watch Live button) upgraded from 26.0 to 27.1.

If you don't mind my asking, why did you need to upgrade?

Just curious about the why's and what for's of your upgrade decision.

Thanks.

[brucerobinson]

Don’t mind you asking at all #bltdavid. You’re correct of course I didn’t *need* to upgrade I chose to - felt that enough dust had settled on 27 now that we’re on to .1 and indications it may be the last supported desktop version (available on dashboard etc). Whilst keeping copies of .26.0 folders for reversion path. Seems CQG connection licence will make it mandatory.
Like to be a late adopter but not never. Forum & input from likes of yourself guide me on timing.
I’m hopeful the lag was a one-off and/or un-related to Watch Live. But I’ve weaned myself off Ninja hopium and still campaigning for its removal/disablement. Dog with bone. :-)

Best,

[brenthilburn]

I recently and very reluctantly (due to the heavily documented User objections to not being able to remove/disable the Watch Live button) ‘upgraded’ from 26.0 to 27.1.
Yesterday, I had chart lag of 27 seconds. I have not seen chart lag >1 sec in over a year with pre- .27 versions…….
No it’s no my internet connection
No it’s not third-party indicators
No it’s not my pc
No it’s not my data provider
What’s changed? There’s your smoking gun……

A new database... One that I see STILL throws errors that didn't occur in 26.1 which I am still running as well...

What Ninjatrader forced me to do is simply move to a new broker.. I am broker neutral so rather than be FORCED to upgrade I'll just find a new broker who doesn't use CQG..

[@tmc_]

I hoped I can use 8.0.26 forever. That Watch button next to minimize is really annoying.

You can update the certificate only if you wish to stick with an older version.

NT 8.0.27 and higher:
%ProgramFiles%\NinjaTrader 8\bin\ca.pem

NT 8.0.26 and lower:
%ProgramFiles(x86)%\NinjaTrader 8\bin\ca.pem
%ProgramFiles(x86)%\NinjaTrader 8\bin64\ca.pem

[NT8_ZJ_A]

You can update the certificate only if you wish to stick with an older version.

NT 8.0.27 and higher:
%ProgramFiles%\NinjaTrader 8\bin\ca.pem

NT 8.0.26 and lower:
%ProgramFiles(x86)%\NinjaTrader 8\bin\ca.pem
%ProgramFiles(x86)%\NinjaTrader 8\bin64\ca.pem

Now I understand why sometimes I was using more data which is important when overseas. Downgraded to 8.0.26.0 from 8.0.28.0 to test the attached certificate but it fails {Network connection to the Order Routing System is unavailable. (Logon failed)}on July 11, 2023 as the current certificate is valid until "Jul 10 20:42:37 2023 GMT".

[brucerobinson]

#nt8_zj_a
“Now I understand why sometimes I was using more data which is important when overseas.“
There’s a hate thread on here for that pos button to be disabled and/or removed at user discretion.
Ninja refuse to listen, so it’s doubtful asking for your vote to be added will make a shred of difference. However, keep floating that thread up the list would keep the issue visible to forum visitors.

Also, there’s a thread on blocking access in your firewall to the ip address the button is polling which might help with your data use when abroad.

If you’re noticing increase in data use, just an fyi (apologies if you’re familiar with all this) you *may* get chart lag (& may not be aware of it - user add-on Chartlagmeasurement will reveal)

I rarely had chart lag >1s on .26
Upgraded to .27 recently. Now I’m seeing 5, 10, 20+ seconds frequently. No other changes.
Seething, to say the least.

Best,

[bltdavid]

pos button?

What's that?

[EDIT: Never mind, you mean that 'Watch' button in upper right of Control Center.]

[NinjaTrader_RyanS]

Hello all,

Below is a help article for updating to 8.0.28 for users interested/curious about doing so. To confirm, this will be required to use the new CQG certificate.

https://support.ninjatrader.com/s/article/Required-Update-for-NinjaTrader-Desktop-v-8-0-Users-Connecting-to-Continuum-CQG?language=en_US