AMD or Intel for Ninja

[BartMan]

I am considering a new main trading system. I log in locally, disable and remove, skype, zoom, onedrive, office, any games or other crapware.
I will likely purchase 2 machines, Raid 10 on SSD so I have the ability to recover quickly.
I will potentially run 6-12 FHD monitors. Start with 6, add later.


Currently
I use windows 11
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Processor, 3501 Mhz, 16 Core(s), 32 Logical Processor(s).

I previously was having stability issues where windows 10 or 11 would freeze. All was fine in RTH but overnight machine would lock up.
Machine has recently been quite stable but as a trader I need to confidence in my system. But the stability had me concerned and thinking about a new system.

Now the question:
How do we create a survey in Ninja Forum to have active users comment on the best processor.





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I saw this thread and wanted to spawn a new one.

https://forum.ninjatrader.com/forum/ninjatrader-8/platform-technical-support-aa/1246844-strategy-analyser-performance-i7-12th-gen-to-boost-or-not-to-boost

[QuantKey_Bruce]

AMD vs Intel is theoretically immaterial. But, stability issues with random freezes could have to do with software (e.g. Windows drivers), or could have to do with especially memory or power supply issues. Often if the memory is not paired correctly with the CPU or if the memory has problems it can cause these sorts of hard-to-track-down crash scenarios. Don't overclock for this type of system, and make sure your power supply is a good quality one and you are on a UPS.

[BartMan]

I do not overclock, I am currently not on UPS but will be on one as I move my trading setup to a new room. I built my own systems in the past but now I max out memory and matched components. I agree drivers can be the issue.

Good reminder on UPS. I will order that this week. Before any system purchase. My current setup does not lend itself to a UPS, my new layout does!

[BartMan]

Bruce, Thanks for the UPS prompt ​

[bltdavid]

Yep, love that CyberPower unit -- I have 3 of them.

As far as a new machine, I'm sure it's just me,
but I would stick with Intel.

[gaz0001]

I used to be an AMD man, due to the exceptional value they offered.
This was 15 to 10 years ago.
I had an issue with 2 apps on the AMD, one was an office app, and the other was a video app.

They were related to using an AMD CPU.

After that I switched to Intel and never looked back.
I figure that when Intel has 75% of the market share they put a. It more into the reliability and software devs put more focus on the intel chips.
(Just a theory though)

[QuantKey_Bruce]

Yep, love that CyberPower unit -- I have 3 of them.

As far as a new machine, I'm sure it's just me,
but I would stick with Intel.

I only use Intel also and have for years, but I do not have any specific argument against AMD.

[bltdavid]

I only use Intel also and have for years, but I do not have any specific argument against AMD.

Heheh, well, same here, no argument against them, but I never buy AMD,
so of course, I have no personal experience to be negative.

I hear enough anecdotal experience, but every tech company I've ever
worked for, it was always Intel desktops and Intel servers. Regardless
of Windows, Linux, or FreeBSD, it was always Intel.

That's what sold me.

[QuantKey_Bruce]

Heheh, well, same here, no argument against them, but I never buy AMD,
so of course, I have no personal experience to be negative.

I hear enough anecdotal experience, but every tech company I've ever
worked for, it was always Intel desktops and Intel servers. Regardless
of Windows, Linux, or FreeBSD, it was always Intel.

That's what sold me.

Same here. I think the arguments in favor of AMD tend to be on the basis of cost, while the arguments in favor of Intel tend to be on the basis of reliability. That's probably oversimplifying, but that's far enough for me to say without getting into it much that I'd rather pay more for something that may well be more reliable under pressure. Obviously, if it were drastically more like 10x, I might have to reconsider how much "possibly more reliable" is worth in dollars, but that is not currently the case, and has not been in recent memory.

And back in the day, when I was putting together SCO Unix, BSD, and later RedHat Enterprise Linux servers, I would never have put together one with AMD processors because customers buying them would have thought I had cheaped out - whether it's "true" or not makes no difference - that is what they would have thought.

[eDanny]

Way back, I really liked the Motorolla 68030. Back when Intel was making 286, 386, 486 processors, the AMD's were cheaper and just as robust. My last Intel processor was a Celeron 150 MHz on a daughter board, overclocked to 450 MHz. I'm not a fanboy of AMD or Intel but AMD was less expensive and overclocked better. They were the first to 1 GHz, if I remember right. Both companies have had issues, remember the Pentium math problem? I am running an aging 8 core AMD which was a bit inferior to Intel at the time but is overclocked to 4.4 GHz with no issues through the years. My next build will be AMD due to cost and performance. BTW, many server farms use AMD systems. It's all personal preference.