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    #46
    TWS reliability

    Hi Mike (ctrlbrk),

    I am using TWS for several years now togehter with other brokers and at a first glance your problems seem Windows or Java related. Seems to be an ActivX or Socket problem that disturbs the connectivity between NT and TWS.
    Why don't you try on a seperate standard laptop with fresh Vista install and latest java version 1.6.11 and latest TWS version installed?
    By the way, your forum name implies that you are used to computer problems, so may you have to change your approach to the computers. (Same with the markets, it is always us who have to change approach to the market, it is never the market to adapt to what is comfortabel for me)

    You are reporting connection problems of TWS, and in my oppinion connection stability is a strong point for TWS.
    In the past and still now some days I am using a portable laptop (Thinkpad T60 with Vista, and Raon Everun with XP, latest java , latest TWS, all Windows updates) and I am trading futures while sitting in the train. The connection is then via a mobile phone using UMTS and GPRS. As you can immagine this connection is not very reliable and in fact it happens quite frequently that the Internet connection is interrupted and the dialup modem dials again to reestablish a connection.
    Do you know what? I keep TWS open all the time, and as soon as the internet is available again TWS will reconnect. TWS will not ask for login (neither for challenge/response) in these occasions. It is only necessary to keep the TWS application running all the time.
    I even did a rougher test a few times: With TWS running and connected I put the laptop in hibernation. Then I waited 1 hour , and I turned the laptop on again (wakeup from hibernation). Then I have to dialup to the internet again , manually, and once internet is connected again TWS will connect also and keep on running.
    With NT I also connect to a PATS system broker at the same time and also there the reconnection after reestablishing internet again works. I did not try the hibernation though with NT on top of TWS or PATS.
    This experience makes me believe that TWS is a very reliable software.
    Offcourse I had problems in the past , but these problems were usually related to faulty windows drivers (bad modem drivers that don't release the com ports) or a messed up windows installation.
    My philosophy is also a thinly loaded Windows, hence only a simple antivirus and for that reason I use the IB data service also. In my oppinion using a third software for stock market data like E-signal and the like together with TWS and NT will only increase the potential for whatsoever sort of software conflicts.

    I hope this info helps.
    Good luck
    Andreas

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      #47
      The forced connection closed error happened to me again today numerous times.

      The exact entries in the log are:
      TWS forced your connection to close. NinjaTrader is unable to automatically reconnect. Please shut down NinjaTrader and reconnect manually to TWS: System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine (10053/10053)

      I got this 4 or 5 times. IB reported no problems.

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        #48
        Did you proceed as per my posts #39 and #42 below?

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          #49
          Originally posted by ctrlbrk View Post
          The forced connection closed error happened to me again today numerous times.

          The exact entries in the log are:
          TWS forced your connection to close. NinjaTrader is unable to automatically reconnect. Please shut down NinjaTrader and reconnect manually to TWS: System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine (10053/10053)

          I got this 4 or 5 times. IB reported no problems.

          Yes, this sounds like momentary blips in your internet connection which TWS recovers from but NT gets kicked off. Got them all the time. ADSL or home internet (or VM possibly) just isn't good enough for an IB/NT setup, you need to host it somewhere with a decent 100% uptime connection for it to work well.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Gumphrie View Post
            Yes, this sounds like momentary blips in your internet connection which TWS recovers from but NT gets kicked off. Got them all the time. ADSL or home internet (or VM possibly) just isn't good enough for an IB/NT setup, you need to host it somewhere with a decent 100% uptime connection for it to work well.
            That is not it. I have a redundant internet connection, DSL+Cable with a load balancing/failover router that automatically switches if it detects a problem with a connection.

            Also, remember that IB data feed continues no problem within TWS, and for that matter, so does IQfeed from within NT.

            Dierk, today I got the error a bunch of times. I stopped my firewall and anti-virus for a few minutes and was still able to easily reproduce the problem. That is also after I did a complete reboot and the only thing running was NT and TWS. Also as I've said before, this is not running in a VM.

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              #51
              Thanks for feedback. Unfortunately we are out of ideas at this time.

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                #52
                I was having the same problem... It always seems to be right in the middle of a trade as well. I still haven't figured out the problem... Some days it happens a lot and then a week will pass without problems... I don't like the way we have to wait for updates from NT and IB to figure out how to get their software talking to each other. If NT has an update it would be nice to be able to get it right away... So maybe there lies the problem with connection to each others software. Anyway please update when its ok do get the latest version of NT... Also... Are the NT team trying to get LightSpeed as a partner? I have an account with them and it would be nice to use NT with that account.

                Thanks you for your time!

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                  #53
                  isto,

                  You can read all advisories here : http://www.ninjatrader.com/Support#Advisories

                  And our release info here : http://www.ninjatrader.com/support/h...ease_notes.htm

                  This advisory looks to answer your question : http://www.ninjatrader.com/Advisory/Advisory11.php

                  "Update: On October 5, 2012 beta testing has been completed. If you are using Interactive Brokers please disregard this advisory and update to R11."
                  Adam P.NinjaTrader Customer Service

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                    #54
                    it's definitely not TWS causing these issues. TWS is a very stable piece of software.
                    I usually have TWS running 24/7 for 1 month or more without a single restart.

                    Once a day -during the IB server restart- it disconnectsa few times for 1 minute or so, but after that it reconnects automatically, no problem at all.

                    Did you guys try to resolve the disconnection issues mentioned in this thread by tweaking the "disconnection loss settings" in NT ? The default settings in NT are way to sensitive in my opinion.

                    take a look at post#8 at

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