Distributing Indicators - 32 and 64 bit?

[moflaherty]

Latest beta contain RemoteSoft support?

Does the latest beta contain RemoteSoft support?

Thanks!

[NinjaTrader_JoshP]

We believe it should work better in B11. Please try it out and let us know. Thank you.

[tazatek]

What is the real advantage to running a protector like RemoteSoft?

I mean, if I export an indicator as a compiled assembly, it's still a DLL right? and the only info that can be gleaned is the method calls right? Or am I wrong about that?

I've been able to look at function names that are RemoteSoft protected in the past, so maybe I'm missing something?

What are they really trying to protect that a normal compiled assembly wont?

Thanks

Matt

[NinjaTrader_Dierk]

I suggest getting yourself educated on the subject of "hacking and decompiling" .NET assemblies. Please try googling on this subject and related to experience that RemoteSoft Protector is a effective means to just prevent exactly that.

[tazatek]

Interesting subject.... My C/C++ background of compiling gave me a different perspective on .DLL files where a protector of this sort wouldn't be needed (although other protection mechanisms would, as with any software.)

When C# "compiles", it isn't really compiling down to the machine level ... An IL file is still required, which still has all the information needed to reverse engineer into the original code.

I tested the concept out, and can see that my entire indicators, even when compiled into an assembly, are fully visible, but even the RemoteSoft protected code doesn't protect the function names, which can still be a huge tip-off into how your algorithm works.

Interestingly, there are software products out there that claim to easily backdoor through RemoteSoft protected code... I've not tried them, but they seem confident.

[eDanny]

I would like to see the Remotesoft Protector first obfuscate and then protect, on the fly during the compile process. Unfortunately the obfuscator does not come with the NT discounted version.

[tazatek]

Bummer that the obfuscator doesn't come with it....

Maybe NinjaTrader could get us a bundled deal for both ?? Would really like to see the native compilation that RemoteSoft has too...

The other option might be to utilize one of the other obfuscators (many for free) and then apply the protection after the fact.... not sure if remotesoft is comptable with other obfuscators, but I'd suspect so.

[moflaherty]

?

Dierk,

Are we good to go with RemoteSoft? I hate to spend the money if you are still working this out with NT7.

Thanks!

[NinjaTrader_Austin]

moflaherty, in the latest release notes, this line can be found:
Status - Fixed
Issue # - 3590
Category - General
Comments - Integrated RemoteSoft Protector V3.1

So it would appear as if this has been worked out.