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The tread does indicate how many have had trouble
making NT do want they want however.
The few sample programs in the PDF are insufficient to give one
a good understanding of how to program.
Varied on-line tutorials of C# are not NT specific.
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Originally posted by ctrlbrk View PostGuys,
Just an observation, but fddayan has not responded or even logged back on to the forum since his original post, so this thread might be a black hole.
Mike
You're right it doesn't look like he's coming back. Maybe someone else will get some ideas though.
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Would you be able to develop this indicator?
Just asking if it's possible (in Ninja & C#)?
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Originally posted by jabeztrading View PostHi fddayan,
You have alot on the plate already. But if you get time can you check out 5iver request:
5iver want to and quote
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Just a modest request...
Is there anyone around who could mod the default Swing Hi/Lo indie (attached) to only show the last swing (hi and lo)? That is, as opposed to plotting all the swings back through the whole chart.
And also, have the plot just keep on plotting until price hits it (to keep the plot near the action).
I guess such an indie woud be called a "Last Hi/Lo" indie...
I'd do it myself... but I've no idea how.
Greatly appreciated if possible."
I myself would like to see how this one can be done. Thank you so much.
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My experience with Last hi/Low indicator is that it is a memory hog.
If left running for more than a day it would slow down then lock up my computer.
RJay
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Here's something that might be to easy for you , but all I'd like to do this
indicator is remove the X lines ,and leave the rest the same .. If you use
this indicator several times on the same chart ,it gets real messy . tia .Attached Files
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Originally posted by T2020 View PostHere's something that might be to easy for you , but all I'd like to do this
indicator is remove the X lines ,and leave the rest the same .. If you use
this indicator several times on the same chart ,it gets real messy . tia .
Try commenting out these lines of code. ( // )
// DrawLine("L1"+id,StartBar,h,EndBar,l,Color.Blue,DashStyle.Dot,1 );
// DrawLine("L2"+id,StartBar,l,EndBar,h,Color.Blue,DashStyle.Dot,1 );
// DrawLine("L3"+id,EndBar,l,EndBar,h,Color.Green,DashStyle.Dot,1) ;
// DrawLine("L4"+id,StartBar,l,StartBar,h,Color.Red,DashStyle.Dot, 1);
Compile, save, reload script.
RJay
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hi fiddayan
I have a problem with the Average true range. I use a 20 bars atr and I trade 10 min bar on mini russell. It should give me an atr value of about 2 but ninja trader is currently giving 1,2. I've verified with other friends traders and they ahd 1,9 - 2,1. How can I do to increase the sensitivity of my Atr? I already tried reducing the number of bars but it didn't worked.
best regards and tks
alessandro
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pin bar, and two bar reverse, and engolfing candle alert
first of thank you for you're help in advance. this is so kind of you to help others. i have some ideas to make the worlds first holy grail system ever.
i know they say it can not be done, but i am not they! i have the trading
experience but little programing experience, so thank you so much for you're
help.
i would like to start the system with this indicator first if it's passable.
i would love to have an alert that sounds on , a two bar revers, pin bar,
I.E. hammer, and engulfing candle. at the close of such candles.
i would like a secondary alert sound when price has closed in this manner
just after a break out level. such as chins break out level indicator.
or any break out level indicator.
the break out part not only should detect consolidation breaks, but
also new recent highs, recent new lows.
the break out indicators i have ever seen are all incorrect.this next
part is new to traders eyes but it is correct. i need it to detect
a retest old support new resistance, but only if this old support
new resistance is breached contrary to what other think. not
near by or close to but breached. this can be confusing so i will
send screen shots of any questions you may have, or any other assistance
i can provide i will be more than happy to help. that's the least i could do.
i would also love a VSA, Volume Spread Analysis - alert with in this alert.
as text saying simply ,low tick volume, low spread, high tick volume, high spread. at the close of such bars. pin bars, engulfing, two bar reverse.
this is no easy task. i should tell you but you will be famous if you can
pull off stage one of the system i have in mind.
i am taking Questions: at [email protected]
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second stage of system.
the second part of this system.
i would like an indicator that knows when low volume, low spreads
happen at the same time over extended number of bars, any thing
over three bars.
this indicator need to know price action again, two bar revers, pin bars,
engulfing. this indicator after detecting consolidation or (low volume, low spreads) looks for price action to close.
as soon as the close i need it to plot all the masses traders stops on the chart, and show an entry spots.
i need it to keep detecting short and long price action signals.
and plot both short and long traders stops.
now you may be LOL right now saying that's not possible.
the fact is not only is it possible, i will give you all the entry and
stops traders use in advance. all the indicator needs to do is
know the entry point, which is right after price action close.
and the level 10 pips below or above price action signal is
where the stops are. then when the stops are hit a need a
distinctive sound alert. for this level being hit.
stage two if this is possable would be awesome thank you.
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the third stage of the system.
i would love to have. a indicator that takes the historic place in history.
that is right here right now.
this indicator has never been attempted before and will revolutionize trading for ever. if it can be done and it will i know it.
here it is: the first indicator to truly see the future with 95% accuracy.
it can't be done by constant human observations, but it can threw knowledge of trading and mathematics.
here we go.
i need, i want, i will do anything for this indicator. i can not believe i am
saying this out load. giving this out like this could give someone else credit for my work but that's ok. this is my contrabution
i need an indicator that is first of all a MTF indicator that knows the testing
that has already happened on the daily weekly and monthly. (price levels
that have been tested and repelled price), and how far in the range are
we in! perspective after that test.(with current momentum)
stepping down each time frame, identifying when was the last reflective
test, plotting the range left on a constant basis. on each time frame.
then i need the data to be meshed into one data plug in. this is where we
are and with the given range and time left to complete the ranges in fulfillment, or (Obligation to range) with respect to each other.
monthly obligation - time left
weekly obligation - time left
daily obligation - time left.
close approximate monthly calculations, in a strong down trend.for one year! gbp/jpy
#1- 4,250 pips against the trend
#2 - 4,250 pips making that ground up with the trend
#3 - 6,200 pips free of inside movement with the trend.
#4 - 10,500 pips netted on the yearly trend.
#5 - 1,500 pips ATR average true range per month.
math check________1,500 pips X 12 months = 19,000 pips.
math check________4,250 + 4,250 +10,500 = 19,000 pips
did not calculate free of inside movement because it is already included
into the 10,500 pips of the net total.
these calculation are kinder to the trend on the monthly, as we move down
the pip count increases and so does the movements against the trend.
which may seem mathematically imposable, but i can prove it.
monthly reflected tops or bottoms, major support, major resistance, - and current distance form these points along with current daily trend. tracking
the distance against the trend or with the trend on a constant range basis. you may say range calculators already do this. no they do not.
they have no price over lapping byes.
#1- ATR calculator should not give an arbatrary range. the true range
is about 30% with the trend on the monthly basis. you have to subtract
the graound lost and the ground made regaining that loss.
simple: a side ways move is not a trend, or even a positive range movement. it,s constant addition and subtraction of range movements.
then i need an obligation of range scenario set forward in time.
obligation to short and long. this range should start at a level 40%
inside the previous month, if this month does not meet this obligation,
then it should pass the left over obligation to the next month.
gbp/jpy has 600pips. of inside bar monthly obligation, on average.
lets say you only get 10 percent one particular months obligation, which is 150 pips. that leaves 450pips. that is over due. against the trend.
this is how a monthly range calculator should really work.
the other thing a range calculator should do is if you get a small range
for the month it should automatically calculate an additional range charge
or increase of range for the next month, and so on. so you know range
trend increase is over due. trending strength is over due.
you combine all this a range calculator that calculates this way
on the monthly, with one that calculates this way on the weekly
then the same on the daily. then you have a MTF range calculator that
could way the over do probabilities with momentum. or when
banks and institution slowly take off blocks of trades to carefully
not let a dramatic slide in an up trend happen, then switch positions.
because the price is valued to high to fast, or maybe the price is
not valued enough?
a reflected price test that has already a cured and momentum retest
probabilities. this indicator needs to know the large test stage,
or monthly stage. the secondary test stage the weekly, and the
daily momentum and momentum length probabilities.
this indicator needs to know ranges, monthly, weekly, daily ranges.
this indicator needs to know weekly break out levels and consolidation.
at support or resistance. not just ranges but how ranges should be
calculated.
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range calculators are not smart enough
i noticed a problem with the ATR calculator.
the ATR calculator is well lets say stupid.
it's not an application that is useful to true trader.
even though traders use it and love it, the ATR
calculator is simply not even practical to the
trading mind.
the darn thing is not that smart.
this indicator i have in mind could revolutionize trading.
here is a list of what the ATR calculator does not
do, and should do in order to sufficiently useful.
#1. it should give a high and low range price
or line on the screen, that range should be 40%
against the trend. this 40% range is a counter
trend normal deviation.
#2. the calculator should calculate the medium range for at least 100 bars.
#3 the calculator should have a separate calculation when a range has not been met
then it should show a lack of obligation to
the range of X- amount of pips, in X - amount of candles. and keep adding lack of obligation from each candle to keep a rolling tally.
range over due (not enough).
this part should be a function choice, or box
that can be checked in inputs.
#4 - the range should be split into 60% positive
and 40% negative range in an up trend.
#5 - the range should be 60% negative and 40%
positive in a down trend.
#6 or neutral range 50% to 50%
the other input should be: descending or ascending
wedge range calculations box.
this will have to be later improvement until l work
out the numbers.
NORMAL RANGE.
the on going calculations should reflect
a constant deviation. example: if ATR is 100 for
the last 100 bars.
lack of normal range. example 85
to much range. example 115.
then we would be in a normal range, for two days.
example.
lack of range for three days.
day 1 -20
day 2 - 30
day 3 - 50
then we have an increased obligation of 100 pips
over due.
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99% of candles on the chart over lap. inside bars
retracments, 50% pull backs etc.
example will use is: when we check the uptrend
box in inputs, and 100 pips is our normal range.
positive range in an up trend is 60% or 60 pips
negative range in an up trend 40% or 40 pips
lets say we got this: 3 day retrace of 200 pips
NORMAL RANGE for 3 days is 300 pips.
3 days lack of positive range = -180 pips
3 days of negative range -120 met and exceeded
by -80 pips
3 days of normal range not met -100 pips.
so the trend NORMAL RANGE obligation increase
is 100 pips up over due + 180 pips of positive
range over due. + 80 pips of exceeded negative
range due back to the positive side.
100+180+80= 360 pips due to the trend.
so if we started to rejoin the trend we would
have a new range or supplemental range
calculation. now we cut the negative obligation
by 50% witch is then only 20 pips. and the
over all range size by 10 % now we have
120 pip up range with 20 pip pull back range
expected or projected.
until we normalize or the 360 pip obligation has been met.
you see small ranges lead to large ranges, an average is just that
an average. so when we have a series of low averages we should
have a make up average, over due average.
we should have an input function of market conditions.
up trend
down trend
flat or small function
descending wedge
ascending wedge
volatile and side ways range
the range calculator should keep up with range conditions
compared to the average.
it can be done with back testing history and mathematics.
some day you will see this sophistication.
you may even see an attached HH,LL,HL,LL trending swing indicator
along with this indicator.
along with a multiple time frame version of this.
so while you sit on the daily, you know the daily and weekly,
ranges and fluctuations.
this is the holy grail a MTF range fluctuation indicator, that sets
out time and counts days left with obligations met or not met or exceeded.
obligations in ranges met or not met on time frames above you.
positive and negative obligation ratio compared to market conditions.
final thoughts: the real problem for traders that have worked so hard
and long to be successful is:not how to enter, not what to look for,
not where to put stops, not how to use leverage, not any analysis.
most traders that trade from how are so well educated they no
more about the market than most flour traders, and they defiantly
no more than fund managers.
the allusive thing for us is flour traders can see the orders set in
we can't so they know how far things will go with total confidence.
it,s like getting the answers to test ahead of time. that's why they do
not have to be as good as we are. they just cheat.
so for us the finial real information we need, is ranges so we know how
far, but we need the ranges to keep up with conditions and fluctuations not an arbitrary number, or average!!!Last edited by boerichen; 06-21-2009, 12:15 PM.
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