FOREX limit orders and stops are sold partial even with fill immediate

[MicroTrends]

simulator
limit order on chart trader are filled partially- only thing that works is a market order. Is sits counting orders... even on a minimum amount 0.1 it converts it to 99,000 and counts down....1 at a time sometimes

We are starting a Forex course in February to recommend NT - but we cannot all the time this is apparent. What proof do we have that this wont happen in live trading..?

1000s of fills = 1000s X spread X commision = financial ruin for a traders account - possbily worse.

We may have to refund and cancel the training until we have some sort or proof this is a simulator issue. Im certainly not going to use or recommend NT until this is resolved for FOREX...

The idea was to harness the power of ATM and discretionary trading with FOREX and chart trader - being the best area to picth to is now FOREX - any ideas when is this fix going to happen? it should be a P1?

[dimkdimk]

simulator
limit order on chart trader are filled partially- only thing that works is a market order. Is sits counting orders... even on a minimum amount 0.1 it converts it to 99,000 and counts down....1 at a time sometimes

I have told this to NT guys before in other thread. They said that it is problem of my code ( that is I doubt a lot ). I did not have time yet to take a deeper look at it. I am 56% sure that it is a bug in NT7, but there is still 44% chance of my fault

[MicroTrends]

hi this is not code - this manually placing a limit order to sell 0.1 in forex the minimum - this a bug which NT have not fixed in NT 6.5 and is still present in nt 7

[NinjaTrader_Ray]

simulator
limit order on chart trader are filled partially- only thing that works is a market order. Is sits counting orders... even on a minimum amount 0.1 it converts it to 99,000 and counts down....1 at a time sometimes

We are starting a Forex course in February to recommend NT - but we cannot all the time this is apparent. What proof do we have that this wont happen in live trading..?

1000s of fills = 1000s X spread X commision = financial ruin for a traders account - possbily worse.

We may have to refund and cancel the training until we have some sort or proof this is a simulator issue. Im certainly not going to use or recommend NT until this is resolved for FOREX...

The idea was to harness the power of ATM and discretionary trading with FOREX and chart trader - being the best area to picth to is now FOREX - any ideas when is this fix going to happen? it should be a P1?

Can you provide me exact steps to reproduce? I can take a look to see what is happening. With respect to a live account, orders are filled according to the broker which is 100% independent of the behaviour you see in our simuator. Its apples to oranges. Live account will work according to what actually occurs at the broker.

[MicroTrends]

Hi unfortunately NT7 will not work for me at the moment - my charts wont update after adjusted the FOREX session manager to 00:00 to 00:00...

I can see what you mean aobut live- but then i am a geek - we are traingin some people who have never even heard of NinjaTrader before - never used a trading platform - to prove like the turtles did - we can take a monkey and train it to trade FOREX...

Trouble is I cannot demonstrate software whihc doesnt work properely in a training course. We need the simulator to work like live or it is going to be a flop.


What i did was create an ATM automatic stop and limit -
hit at market - the limit was hit placed and the marekt traded above it and the lmit only sold 1 or 2 - instead of the whole 0.1 - it thens displays 99,998 and starts to countdown when the market trades at that level.

I will video it when my charts are fixed.

[NinjaTrader_Ray]

I guess I don't see what the problem is? If you have a limit price of X and the market trades at X and not higher (sell limit) you can get partially filled orders. This is expected in our simulator. Now if the market trades at a price > X, the remaining balance of the order will be filled immediately.

[MicroTrends]

Ray it is an issue -a very bad issue for us when demoing NT simulator.
It does not mimic live trading -

Usually the minimum in forex is 0.1m it is either filled or it is not.

The minimum unit is never split into parts and then sold 1 unit fraction at a time.
Nobody would trade it if that happened.
E.G 0.1 is split to 100,000 and 1 unit sold at a time - so you get
99,999

If the market trades on or above a sell limit it is filled - the sim can trade above the sell limit only by the spread- but what happens needs expliaing in a video.

I will film a video - when i can fix Nt7 charts

We are talking of 1 unit - 1 lot - 0.1M

Not 1M being split into 10 - 0.1 units and filled 1 at a time


if you try to close out in 6.5 it hangs the whole chart and counts down you have to hit flatten all - NT7 seesm to have got better at this bit.

Thank you for your patience i will demonstrate the issue very soon - It was first pointed out to me by someone who refuses to use NT for live trasing becuase of the issue - that is about 5 trader i know of so far who have plumbed for MT4 instead- yuck!

[NinjaTrader_Ray]

Ray it is an issue -a very bad issue for us when demoing NT simulator.
It does not mimic live trading -

The minimum in forex is 0.1m it is either filled or it is not.
It is not split into parts and then sold 1 unit at a time.
E.G 0.1 is split to 100,000 and 1 unit sold at a time - so you get
99,999

If the market trades on or above a sell limit it is filled - the sim can trade above the sell limit only by the spread- but what happens needs expliaing in a video.

I will film a video - when i can fix Nt7 charts

We are talking of 1 unit - 1 lot - 0.1M

Not 1M being split into 10 - 0.1 units and filled 1 at a time

I see what you are saying and understand your point. Your correct that most brokers have min lot sizes however, there are others that support fill sizes less than that.

Did you try under Tools > Options > Simulator

- Disable support for partial fills
- Enable "Enforce immediate fills"

?

[MicroTrends]

yes i did that

[NinjaTrader_Ray]

If that did not make a difference then the only other option is to use the free GAIN feed/data we provide. Just looking at the simulator code, limit orders will fill immediately as you expect.

[MicroTrends]

GAIN ? i will create a new connection that sounds awesome

aha ok so how do i get an account?

i see i can use a demo i will try that

[NinjaTrader_Ray]

1. Start NinjaTrader
2. From within the Control Center window, select “Tools > Account Connections...”
3. In the Account Connection Set Up window, press Add...
4. Follow the instructions provided in the Connection Wizard
5. Select "Use NinjaTrader servers" for Historical Data
6. Select “Demo” under the Mode option list
7. Complete the wizard
8. From within the Control Center window, select "Tools > Options > Misc"
9. Set the value for the property "Quote currencies (FX) in" to "Pip"
10. You will now be able to connect to a free real-time rate simulation account
    via the Control Center window “File > Connect” menu

[MicroTrends]

Ray this is simply awesome - thank you - this is waht the wrold was waiting for free data!!!!

[MicroTrends]

Ray

I confirm that the issue went away using GAIN so far so good

thank you!!!