FlattenEverything from code...negates race condition

[ATI user]

I am getting uncovered positions trading live cash

this is because I am using AtmStrategyClose which is reversing me due to race condition

I would much prefer to be able to 'FlattenEverything' from my code instead of closing each position separately....this would negate any possibility of a race condition reverse

Is this possible in 7?

[ATI user]

or possibly this would work in conjunction with AtmStrategy code?


if (Position.MarketPosition == MarketPosition.Long )
{
ExitLong();
Print(" ");
Print(" EXIT UNCOVERED LONG "+ToTime(Time[0]) );
}
else if ( Position.MarketPosition == MarketPosition.Short )
{
ExitShort();
Print(" ");
Print(" EXIT UNCOVERED SHORT "+ToTime(Time[0]) );
}
return;

[NinjaTrader_JoshP]

ATI user,

NS entry/exit method/properties would not influence your ATM strategy calls. Meaning, if you entered a position via AtmStrategyCreate, Position.MarketPosition would not pick it up as a long/short as that is not a NinjaScript position.

[Mindset]

Poss solution?

Ati user

I don't use strategies but would an oif work?

CLOSEPOSITION COMMAND
CLOSEPOSITION;<ACCOUNT>;<INSTRUMENT>;;;;;;;;;;

I believe this is the equivalent of hitting the close button in ChartTrader and has never resulted in the conditions you have experienced.

( search order instruction files after F1 help)

[ATI user]

Josh
Thanks. I had a suspicion they might be handled differently

Mindset
Thanks. OIFs are new to me and seem like the solution. I would want to use

FLATTENEVERYTHING;;;;;;;;;;;;

now I need to read up on how to implement them.

You say you do not use strategies....does this mean you use your own custom command code instead? i.e. OIFs

[Mindset]

command code

Ati user

Yes - I am a discretionary rule based trader and I tried for years to get a coded strategy to fit me but did not succeed.
oif's are ok but be aware they don't do simulated orders so if you want say a neg stop limit order - you can't do it.
They are also a real pain to write correctly so use the oif builder(tools-options-ati).

[Mindset]

position recognition

Josh

Could you outline why NT doesn't see an oif order fill as a position - is there any way to use position commands on oif orders in v7 perhaps?

[ATI user]

in another thread

[ATI user]

I am writing an oif.txt file to NinjaTrader 7/incoming folder

the file shows up(see attached) but is not executed...in sim101 ...live feed....i.e. positions and stops are left open

text is from OIF Builder...where Write File was checked

ATI is enable from File menu


WriteFile("oif3.txt", "FLATTENEVERYTHING;;;;;;;;;;;;");

[NinjaTrader_JoshP]

Mindset,

OIFs are similar to manual trades. In 6.5 and 7, manually placed trades are not "seen" or managed by a NinjaScript Strategy.

[NinjaTrader_JoshP]

ATI user,

Any Control Center log messages?

[ATI user]

none....had them when path was wrong....none since path is right and file is written in correct folder

[ATI user]

found bug....I assume

1. would not work so I thought maybe I needed to start NT with ATI enabled...did that....worked perfectly....ATI processing then executed in Log

2. then enabled strat....it restarted, wrote the iof file to incoming...however it was not executed

3. thought maybe I needed to remove the strat after a flatten, so I did....enabled new strat....wrote iof to folder however did not execute.

so...unless you are only allowed to do this once, must be a bug related to not resetting something after flatten

4. question: flatten happens so fast I could not see the iof file written and deleted. Please confirm iofs are deleted from incoming folder after execution

[ATI user]

5. same results exactly as above when running in Market Replay....i.e. works perfectly once after restart and then not again

the help notes say you can test in 'live feed....' inferring it maybe would not work in MR...glad it does

NOTE: switching feeds does not reset the function...you must restart NT

[NinjaTrader_JoshP]

ATI user,

I am not experiencing the same thing.

1. Connect data feed
2. Run SampleMACrossOver
3. As it enters a trade, Tools>Options>ATI>OIF builder
4. Submit FlattenEverything OIF
5. Trade closes, strategy shut down as expected.
6. Reenable strategy, strategy trades
7. Submit FlattenEverything OIF
8. Positions all exited again, strategy shut down.

On OIF processing the OIF is deleted from the incoming folder. Please confirm this behavior on your end. If your OIF is removed from the folder it means it was processed. Please see the Control Center logs for messages related to the OIF processing. If it was not processed the OIF file would still be in your directory.