NT7 Chart Templates Suggestion...

[Alfred]

Chart Properties and Data Series templates..... suggestions...

Some users seem interested in this area to return to something like the chart templates in NT6.5....

http://www.ninjatrader-support2.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21922

This idea for NT7 would be to have two sets of templates (besides the Draw Tools templates) ...one set for the Chart Properties window and one set for the Data Series window...

Since Chart Properties works on all chart windows...
What about having perhaps 10 optional templates there (including Default)...These would be displayed in a numbered vertical list at the bottom or side of the chart properties window.... Here users could create, name and save custom Chart Properties templates that could be recalled. These could be recalled through the Chart Properties window, a chart properties icon perhaps, or from the right click context menu. With templates like this, one could easily move through existing charts and alter them to a new template.

For the Data Series window...
When one formats the Data Series window, again have perhaps 10 optional templates (including Default)available...These would be displayed in a numbered vertical list at the bottom or side of the data series window. Here users could create and save custom named Data Series templates for minute, seconds and tick charts etc. that could be recalled as wished. Where there is a multi series chart, default or custom template settings would be applied by highlighting the desired data series and then selecting a custom template for that particular data series only. Again, these templates could be recalled through the Data Series window, a template icon perhaps, or from the right click context menu.


Thanks...

[NinjaTrader_JoshP]

Thanks for the suggestions and we appreciate the feedback.

[JS999]

Chart Properties and Data Series templates..... suggestions...

Some users seem interested in this area to return to something like the chart templates in NT6.5....

http://www.ninjatrader-support2.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21922

This idea for NT7 would be to have two sets of templates (besides the Draw Tools templates) ...one set for the Chart Properties window and one set for the Data Series window...

Since Chart Properties works on all chart windows...
What about having perhaps 10 optional templates there (including Default)...These would be displayed in a numbered vertical list at the bottom or side of the chart properties window.... Here users could create, name and save custom Chart Properties templates that could be recalled. These could be recalled through the Chart Properties window, a chart properties icon perhaps, or from the right click context menu. With templates like this, one could easily move through existing charts and alter them to a new template.

For the Data Series window...
When one formats the Data Series window, again have perhaps 10 optional templates (including Default)available...These would be displayed in a numbered vertical list at the bottom or side of the data series window. Here users could create and save custom named Data Series templates for minute, seconds and tick charts etc. that could be recalled as wished. Where there is a multi series chart, default or custom template settings would be applied by highlighting the desired data series and then selecting a custom template for that particular data series only. Again, these templates could be recalled through the Data Series window, a template icon perhaps, or from the right click context menu.

Thanks...

This was already discussed a week or so ago, as I suggested the same thing. Ray said that they couldn't figure out a way to do it given their current architecture.

[Alfred]

JS999...missed your earlier post on this idea...sorry...

[NinjaTrader_JoshP]

I believe Alfred's suggestions are different. He is suggesting templates for multiple "defaults". Not a departure back to 6.5 chart templates. In either case, they have been noted.

[JS999]

I believe Alfred's suggestions are different. He is suggesting templates for multiple "defaults". Not a departure back to 6.5 chart templates. In either case, they have been noted.

That is precisely what I suggested. I said that we could have templates for data series and chart properties the same way that we have templates for indicators now in NT 7. Each chart would therefore be constructed by applying 3 separate templates to it, one for the data series, one for chart properties, and one for indicators.

Having templates for those things is in fact exactly the same thing as having multiple "defaults" - and if you already have a facility to save default settings, there is no reason why you can't have multiple defaults possible and change them for each chart.

Let me sketch this out for you:

You have an xml file which contains the indicator settings, another xml file which contains chart property settings, and a third xml file which contains data series settings. You then create a fourth xml file which specifies which 3 xml files are applied to a chart, and that fourth xml file is in fact the overall template. In order to transfer a template from one installation to another, you have to copy the 4th xml file and and make sure that the new installation also contains the other 3 that are referenced. This is a rough idea of how you could do templates in NT7, at least in terms of how they would be stored on disk. In fact, this is exactly what is already going on somewhere in the code, only currently we are allowed to only have one "default" setting for the chart properties and data series instead of specifying multiple setups across different xml files.

Ray said at the time that this was not possible in NT 7 and that they could not figure out how to do it, which by the way, I don't really buy. I know for a fact that it can be stored on disk quite easily as I just said, and as for reading it and creating a chart from it, the code should be able to apply different settings for each chart. It's already reading the default settings from somewhere for bar width and so on, we're just asking for the ability to change that on a chart-by-chart basis. I don't see why having multi-series charts mean that every single candle chart in the whole system has to now have the same bar width. I can understand why you might not be able to do things like apply different chart property templates to different panes in the same multi-series chart, but that's not what I was referring to. You guys obviously figured out in NT 6.5 how to have multiple charts open with different background colors and so on, so there is definitely a way to figure it out in 7.

But in any case, he closed the thread and said that it won't be happening.

[eDanny]

I would still like to see at least a global default template that would apply to all charts until changed with the new template. It would be so much easier.

[DavidHP]

If it is true that there is only 1 default template per period/chart type...
I find this very disappointing.

But perhaps I misunderstood or the option is still a work in progress.

If it is as I suspect then:
When I design trading systems/indicators, I have charts on my workspace all with the same time period/instrument to run test/compares. If I want to save one of the charts for later review, it appears that the normal way of naming the template for that chart and then bringing it back up later has been removed.

So each time I develop a new 'test' chart it is going to over-write my active 'tested and working' chart type and I loose it?

There has to be another option...

Is the 'Indicator sets' a possible work-around for the same thing as templates?

If that works, I'm o.k. with that.

Thanks,

[JS999]

There has to be another option...

Is the 'Indicator sets' a possible work-around for the same thing as templates?

If that works, I'm o.k. with that.

Thanks,

The only thing you can save with indicator sets is indicator settings themselves, not things like chart color, right side margin, bar width or color, horizontal line spacing, or anything else found in the chart properties or data series windows. Those currently only have one default setting.

I started a poll about this issue a week or two ago to see how many people wanted the ability to save multiple defaults/templates for these things, but Ray immediately deleted it within 10 minutes and stated that they could not make these changes due to architectural problems. He definitively said that they were not going to change this because they couldn't figure out how to make it work with multi-series charts.

[aslane]

This needs to be addressed, as lack of chart templates (the basic stuff already mentioned) makes it very painful. Definitely a step back.

[JS999]

This needs to be addressed, as lack of chart templates (the basic stuff already mentioned) makes it very painful. Definitely a step back.

I have a feeling that a good number of people feel this way, which is why I tried to start a poll to see if I was right. Perhaps you can start one if you feel like it - maybe they won't delete it this time.

[John_Aus]

Please somehow get chart templates back.
This is a very serious backward step.

[Alfred]

Brainstorm !!...(?)

Here is an idea ...when you do not have a multi series chart and you want a template (as in 6.5) on just a simple chart...what about bundling the Data Series template and the Chart Properties template into a single template as JS999 has suggested...this would work perhaps pretty much just like templates did in 6.5 for single series. While if you have a multi series chart keep the Data Series template and Chart Properties templates separate as currently is done...as apparently a master template with multi series raises too many problems evidently....

But master templates on single series charts could be useful...my guess is that maybe 90% or more of the time users will be working with single series stuff.

Thanks

[dwalls]

Help Please

Hello,
How do I save a chart that I just built?
With a couple indicators on it.
What is the procedure.
I cant seem to figure it out.
I right click on the chart and it does not give me a save option.
I dont want to rebuild a chart from scratch
each time I open a chart.

Thanks

[srvsrv]

Templates - A suggestion to Mimic the 6.5 functionality

Its mostly the tedium and time it takes to create a chart, often a set of charts, all very similiar that is hard to get accustomed to, lazy as I am.


MY problem would be solved IF
I could record the keystrokes necessary to setup a chart the way I want, save those keystrokes to a named file.
Then, when I want, I could "playback" those keystrokes to NT which accepts them as though comming from the keyboard, rather than a file.
I'd have just about the same functionality if I can save and recal (to play) these files from a list within NT.

This is an old kluge from an old programmer - I'd appreciate yaAll keeping the flames to a minimum!