Intermittent startup problems

[egan857]

That failure was my fault. I had the laptop's power settings on Balanced instead of High Performance and didn't set them back. I'll let you know if the system fails tomorrow for a legitimate reason.

[NinjaTrader_Bertrand]

egan857, could you please get in touch with me directly via Help > Mail to Support - would be great if you could include trace / logs and your config file for review.

[koganam]

Hi Konganam,

Good catch. I added System.Data.dll to the Ninja Trader folder in April 2012 when I was trying to figure out how to connect to Oracle. I just removed it from the folder (it was never in the references, so it didn't need to be removed from there). Couldn't see everything in your list. Now my references look like this. Anything look odd, besides system.dll being an extremely old version and at the bottom of the list?

System.Core.dll
System.Drawing.dll
System.Windows.Forms.dll
System.XML.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\NinjaTrader.Core.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\WilsonORMapper.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\MySQL.Data.dll
C:\Users\egan\Documents\NinjaTrader 7\Bin\Custom\NinjaTrader.Vendor.dll
C:\Windows\Microsoft NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System.dll

Those are pretty much they. Maybe you should delete the reference to System.dll, then repair your NT installation to see if it corrects the reference to point to the correct place. (Just a general suggestion, as I have never myself investigated exactly to which System.dll NT points).

[NinjaTrader_Bertrand]

egan857, so you're saying your connection was not working 6 mins after open anymore, but you did not see a ConnectionLoss event for your NT setup?

Apart from that it's important to mention that NT was not designed for black box operation for extended periods without a trader overseeing its operations continuously.

[egan857]

Hi Bertrand,

The problem is that at least some of these errors are not just warnings. I had three programs running today, and the simplest one, the heartbeat program, died 6 minutes after the open. I'm pretty sure the other two died before placing a trade. It's getting to be a common occurrence that I come home at the end of the day and find out that nothing has traded, no heartbeats were logged, and there are error messages in the trace file that were not deemed serious enough for an error message in Ninja Trader.

[NinjaTrader_Bertrand]

egan857, this error message seen in your files can be safely ignored.

[egan857]

Hi Bertrand,

Got a new error message today:

2013-11-05 07:45:34:223 Code.Editor.OnLoad: Failed to reference 'NinjaTrader.Custom, Version=7.0.1000.16, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null': System.IO.FileNotFoundException: The specified module could not be found. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007007E)
at System.Reflection.Assembly._nLoad(AssemblyName fileName, String codeBase, Evidence assemblySecurity, Assembly locationHint, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Boolean throwOnFileNotFound, Boolean forIntrospection)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.InternalLoad(AssemblyNa me assemblyRef, Evidence assemblySecurity, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Boolean forIntrospection)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.LoadFrom(String assemblyFile)
at NinjaTrader.Code.Editor.OnLoad(Object sender, EventArgs e)
2013-11-05 07:48:19:534 (Kinetick) Data.Bars.GetBarsNow: instrument='BAC' from='2013-10-16' to='2013-11-04' period=1 Min splitAdjusted=False dividendAdjusted=False bars=0 session='US Equities ETH'
2013-11-05 07:48:20:065 (Kinetick) Data.Bars.GetBarsNow: instrument='BAC' from='2013-11-05' to='2013-11-05' period=1 Min splitAdjusted=False dividendAdjusted=False bars=0 session='US Equities ETH'
2013-11-05 07:48:55:912 (Kinetick) Data.Bars.GetBarsNow: instrument='DIA' from='2013-10-16' to='2013-11-04' period=1 Min splitAdjusted=False dividendAdjusted=False bars=0 session='US Equities ETH'
2013-11-05 07:48:56:349 (Kinetick) Data.Bars.GetBarsNow: instrument='DIA' from='2013-11-05' to='2013-11-05' period=1 Min splitAdjusted=False dividendAdjusted=False bars=0 session='US Equities ETH'
2013-11-05 07:50:19:618 (Kinetick) Data.Bars.GetBarsNow: instrument='ABT' from='2013-10-24' to='2013-11-04' period=1 Min splitAdjusted=False dividendAdjusted=False bars=0 session='US Equities ETH'
2013-11-05 07:50:19:899 (Kinetick) Data.Bars.GetBarsNow: instrument='ABT' from='2013-11-05' to='2013-11-05' period=1 Min splitAdjusted=False dividendAdjusted=False bars=0 session='US Equities ETH'
2013-11-05 07:50:20:086 (Kinetick) Data.Bars.GetBarsNow: instrument='ABT' from='2013-10-24' to='2013-11-04' period=Daily splitAdjusted=False dividendAdjusted=False bars=0 session='US Equities ETH'
2013-11-05 07:50:20:258 (Kinetick) Data.Bars.GetBarsNow: instrument='ABT' from='2013-11-05' to='2013-11-05' period=Daily splitAdjusted=False dividendAdjusted=False bars=0 session='US Equities ETH'
2013-11-05 07:50:20:508 (Kinetick) Data.Bars.GetBarsNow: instrument='ABT' from='2013-11-04' to='2013-11-04' period=1 Min splitAdjusted=False dividendAdjusted=False bars=0 session='US Equities ETH'
2013-11-05 07:50:20:882 Db.Globals.StrategyUpdateJob3: WARNING: ABT Default

Gotta love it. WARNING, and then no information about why it's a warning.

If Ninja Trader sees a problem with something, like in this case with one of the references and a symbol, why doesn't it display that there is a problem? It's before market hours. I see no problem starting up, so I just drive to the office and then come back at night and find out that NT didn't trade, and I lose a day of simulated trading. Even if I stayed at home, I wouldn't know there was a problem; I'd just assume that no stocks qualified for the strategies.

[egan857]

Hi Konganam,

Good catch. I added System.Data.dll to the Ninja Trader folder in April 2012 when I was trying to figure out how to connect to Oracle. I just removed it from the folder (it was never in the references, so it didn't need to be removed from there). Couldn't see everything in your list. Now my references look like this. Anything look odd, besides system.dll being an extremely old version and at the bottom of the list?

System.Core.dll
System.Drawing.dll
System.Windows.Forms.dll
System.XML.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\NinjaTrader.Core.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\WilsonORMapper.dll
C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\MySQL.Data.dll
C:\Users\egan\Documents\NinjaTrader 7\Bin\Custom\NinjaTrader.Vendor.dll
C:\Windows\Microsoft NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System.dll

[koganam]

There is something really strange with your installation. There is this line:

File name: 'file:///C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\System.Data.dll'

Was that a reference that you created? I ask because .NET files are not supposed to be located in that directory.

The picture shows the references that are in a pristine NT installation. There is no reference linked to that file name. If you need that reference, you should probably be linking to the one that is installed in either the .NET directory or the global assembly cache.

[egan857]

Oh wait. Correction, I do get a different error now. This error displayed immediately after startup and before attempting to start any strategies:


2013-11-04 12:26:50:261 Code.Editor.OnLoad: Failed to reference 'C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\NinjaTrader.Core.dll': System.ApplicationException: Could not load exported type data for assembly 'NinjaTrader.Core, Version=7.0.1000.16, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'. ---> System.TypeLoadException: Method 'OnMaterialized' in type 'NinjaTrader.Cbi.Order' from assembly 'NinjaTrader.Core, Version=7.0.1000.16, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' does not have an implementation.
at System.Reflection.Assembly._GetExportedTypes()
at k..ctor(Assembly A_0, String A_1, String A_2, String A_3, Boolean A_4)
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at k..ctor(Assembly A_0, String A_1, String A_2, String A_3, Boolean A_4)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.a.a(c A_0, ResolveEventHandler A_1)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.a.a(c A_0, ResolveEventHandler A_1)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.Add(String assemblyName, DotNetProjectResolver projectResolver)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Dot NetProjectResolver.AddExternalReference(String assemblyName)
at NinjaTrader.Code.Editor.OnLoad(Object sender, EventArgs e)
2013-11-04 12:26:50:324 Code.Editor.OnLoad: Failed to reference 'C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\WilsonORMapper.dll': System.ApplicationException: Could not load exported type data for assembly 'WilsonORMapper, Version=4.2.2.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' and type 'Wilson.ORMapper.ObjectSpace'. ---> System.BadImageFormatException: Could not load file or assembly 'file:///C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\System.Data.dll' or one of its dependencies. This assembly is built by a runtime newer than the currently loaded runtime and cannot be loaded.
File name: 'file:///C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\System.Data.dll'
at System.Signature._GetSignature(SignatureStruct& signature, Void* pCorSig, Int32 cCorSig, IntPtr fieldHandle, IntPtr methodHandle, IntPtr declaringTypeHandle)
at System.Signature..ctor(RuntimeMethodHandle methodHandle, RuntimeTypeHandle declaringTypeHandle)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.get_Signature( )
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.FetchNonReturn Parameters()
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.GetParameters( )
at ai..ctor(k A_0, Type A_1)
at k..ctor(Assembly A_0, String A_1, String A_2, String A_3, Boolean A_4)

WRN: Assembly binding logging is turned OFF.
To enable assembly bind failure logging, set the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog] (DWORD) to 1.
Note: There is some performance penalty associated with assembly bind failure logging.
To turn this feature off, remove the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog].

--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at k..ctor(Assembly A_0, String A_1, String A_2, String A_3, Boolean A_4)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.a.a(c A_0, ResolveEventHandler A_1)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.a.a(c A_0, ResolveEventHandler A_1)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.Add(String assemblyName, DotNetProjectResolver projectResolver)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Dot NetProjectResolver.AddExternalReference(String assemblyName)
at NinjaTrader.Code.Editor.OnLoad(Object sender, EventArgs e)
2013-11-04 12:26:50:339 Code.Editor.OnLoad: Failed to reference 'C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\System.Data.dll': System.BadImageFormatException: Could not load file or assembly 'file:///C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\System.Data.dll' or one of its dependencies. This assembly is built by a runtime newer than the currently loaded runtime and cannot be loaded.
File name: 'file:///C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\System.Data.dll'
at System.Reflection.Assembly._nLoad(AssemblyName fileName, String codeBase, Evidence assemblySecurity, Assembly locationHint, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Boolean throwOnFileNotFound, Boolean forIntrospection)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.InternalLoad(AssemblyNa me assemblyRef, Evidence assemblySecurity, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Boolean forIntrospection)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.ReflectionOnlyLoadFrom( String assemblyFile)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.a.a(String A_0)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.a.b(String A_0)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.a.b(String A_0)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.Add(String assemblyName, DotNetProjectResolver projectResolver)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Dot NetProjectResolver.AddExternalReference(String assemblyName)
at NinjaTrader.Code.Editor.OnLoad(Object sender, EventArgs e)

WRN: Assembly binding logging is turned OFF.
To enable assembly bind failure logging, set the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog] (DWORD) to 1.
Note: There is some performance penalty associated with assembly bind failure logging.
To turn this feature off, remove the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog].

2013-11-04 12:26:50:371 Code.Editor.OnLoad: Failed to reference 'C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\MySql.Data.dll': System.ApplicationException: Could not load exported type data for assembly 'MySql.Data, Version=6.5.4.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=c5687fc88969c44d'. ---> System.BadImageFormatException: Could not load file or assembly 'file:///C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\System.Data.dll' or one of its dependencies. This assembly is built by a runtime newer than the currently loaded runtime and cannot be loaded.
File name: 'file:///C:\Program Files (x86)\NinjaTrader 7\bin\System.Data.dll'
at System.Reflection.Assembly._GetExportedTypes()
at k..ctor(Assembly A_0, String A_1, String A_2, String A_3, Boolean A_4)

WRN: Assembly binding logging is turned OFF.
To enable assembly bind failure logging, set the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog] (DWORD) to 1.
Note: There is some performance penalty associated with assembly bind failure logging.
To turn this feature off, remove the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog].

--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at k..ctor(Assembly A_0, String A_1, String A_2, String A_3, Boolean A_4)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.a.a(c A_0, ResolveEventHandler A_1)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.a.a(c A_0, ResolveEventHandler A_1)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Ass emblyCodeRepository.Add(String assemblyName, DotNetProjectResolver projectResolver)
at ActiproSoftware.SyntaxEditor.Addons.DotNet.Dom.Dot NetProjectResolver.AddExternalReference(String assemblyName)
at NinjaTrader.Code.Editor.OnLoad(Object sender, EventArgs e)
2013-11-04 12:26:51:993 Code.Editor.OnLoad: Failed to reference 'NinjaTrader.Custom, Version=7.0.1000.16, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null': System.IO.FileNotFoundException: The specified module could not be found. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007007E)
at System.Reflection.Assembly._nLoad(AssemblyName fileName, String codeBase, Evidence assemblySecurity, Assembly locationHint, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Boolean throwOnFileNotFound, Boolean forIntrospection)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.InternalLoad(AssemblyNa me assemblyRef, Evidence assemblySecurity, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, Boolean forIntrospection)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.LoadFrom(String assemblyFile)
at NinjaTrader.Code.Editor.OnLoad(Object sender, EventArgs e)

[egan857]

Hi Bertrand,

OK, so let me make sure I have this right. I need to edit my strategy, right-click on it, select References, delete the existing System.dll and replace it with the one you mentioned, right?

I did that, but I don't think there's any way that could possibly solve the problem. I get the problem immediately after starting up the application, before I've ever attempted to run any strategy. How would my references to my strategy affect whether or not Ninja Trader will start up correctly?

The problem did not recur, but it never recurs after I have shut down Ninja Trader that day. It only fails on the first occurrence of starting up Ninja Trader.

Plus, we still haven't addressed the important issue: why isn't Ninja Trader displaying an error message when it can't recognize System.dll?

[NinjaTrader_Bertrand]

egan857, from what I've see so far I could unfortunately not explain the intermittancy of the issue at this point, what I do recommend still though as first step working on the setup is ensuring the correct version reference is listed and that would be the one from the 2.0 framework here. Then I would recheck if the issue would remanifest. There would be no 32 or 64 bit dll picked in this case that should contribute.

[egan857]

Hi Bertrand,

That still doesn't explain why Ninja Trader thought System.DLL was unacceptable the first time I started it this morning, but it had no problems with System.DLL the second time I started it this morning. Why is this an intermittant problem? This is why I don't think the problem is with System.DLL at all, because changing it doesn't affect the intermittancy of the problem.

I think the problem is related to the problems I had installing the last two releases (.15 and .16??). In both cases, I clicked on the install link and the installer installed the 32-bit versions instead of the 64-bit versions (I did not have NT running at the time). I think there's a problem in the Registry that's telling NT that I'm running a 32-bit application, but even that doesn't explain the intermittancy.

I think NT is sometimes looking for a 32-bit version of system.dll and other times looking for a 64-bit version of system.dll.

[NinjaTrader_Bertrand]

Sorry for the confusion here, let me try to clarify -

NT7 is build on and support NET 3.5 - assemblies from newer NET's like 4.0 and 4.5 could unfortunately not be loaded since the target framework would not resolve in this setup.

Win7 PC's would naturally have 4.0 installed and support a windows feature to activate in 3.5 to support applications that would need this environment or parts of 2.0 (since 3.5 would include support for 2.0).

Your System Data DLL likely is taken from the 4.0 framework and thus could not be referenced in NT7 unfortunately, our next major platform upgrade would support latest .NET 4.5 (however would not have an ETA for this to become available).

For your setup now I would suggest referencing the System Data dll from the C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727 folder for compatibility.

[egan857]

Hi Bertrand,


In the other support thread for this problem (link in post #2 of this thread), JC said that I should be on .NET release 4. Even when I told him I was on 4, he requested that I "repair" that release to get the latest release 4. Are you saying now that release 4 isn't supported? I didn't understand the third sentence; are you saying I should be on release 2?

Besides, none of this addresses the real issue: why is Ninja Trader failing to start up properly and not throwing any visible error messages?